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HawgEnvy
08-02-2011, 04:37 PM
GETTING TIRED OF THIS CRAP! remember the mishap with the tru-ball release awhile back? well, it happened again today. with two other releases! its not a matter of bumping the trigger. finger is behind the trigger pushing forward til im ready to shoot. always is,has been,and will be. it happened with the release ive been using since the last problem i had. lost an arrow:mad:.So i switched to my back-up Tru-ball Stinger. and again. another mis-fire! at least i found that arrow. punched my self in the mouth twice in 5min. the Cheetah just about went airborne. but, i controlled myself. im SO pissed right now. i was warming up,getting ready to go on a real coon hunt. just found out today that theyre legal to actually hunt on farmlands when causing damage to crops or property. i was excited! then this BS!:mad:

im kinda thinking its got to be something with the d-loop material. has to be. what are the odds of # releases mis-firing while shooting the same bow? not bloody likely. seriously thinking about going back to shooting off the string. just dont want to do that,though. what alternatives are there? is there a thicker loop material i should use? uggghhhh!

Ehunter
08-02-2011, 04:43 PM
What material are you using now? I use BCY 24. Never had a bit of problems with it, and it lasts forever. I use to use Paradox cord, which is a bit thicker, but doesn't last nearly as long. Is there a chance that your releases are actually just getting worn, and gapping open a bit too much?

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-02-2011, 04:52 PM
Hawg, the d loop material is thinner then the string. So shooting off the string won't change a thing. Have you checked your sensitivity of the release. Is it adjusted right. Also some releases which I have one on the super shooter. You can fire from the back of the trigger. And that ain't no joke. I touched the mechanism and bang it goes off. But I still think the head needs adjustment.



Hutch:cool:

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-02-2011, 04:57 PM
If it is the d loop material I put on it is BCY 24


Hutch:cool:

HawgEnvy
08-02-2011, 06:01 PM
Hutch,its the flo green stuff you sent w the string. its almost like the loop is slipping from between the release jaws. but the jaws are tight. the sensitivity is adjusted like ive always had them. not sensitive,but not firm either. i can usually rest my finger on the trigger before using back tension to trigger the release.

i was shooting in the rain. would that have an effect on it? also,the string being thicker,in my line of frustrated thinking anyway,would be less likely to slip between the release jaws. ill crank the tension all the way up so i actually have to give it a good squeeze to trigger the release and see how that works, i guess. i think the loop material is the same stuff i had on the old strings,too,when it happened.

Arrow Splitter
08-02-2011, 06:03 PM
The Flo green stuff is BCY 24.

Destroyer
08-02-2011, 07:27 PM
im kinda thinking its got to be something with the d-loop material. has to be. what are the odds of # releases mis-firing while shooting the same bow?

I doubt its the loop unless its actually failing. Sounds like a run of REALLY bad luck!


the Cheetah just about went airborne. but, i controlled myself.

Well done, can be very hard to do. ;)


BCY 24.

All I use.


i can usually rest my finger on the trigger before using back tension to trigger the release.

I would be setting it firmer and making a more deliberate release, especially for hunting.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-03-2011, 01:00 AM
Hawg, I believe with how much you are shooting. You have worn the internal mechanism down a little. Adjust it as been suggested. A little more firmer. This will change the worn spot to a different location. And should help. Its happened to most shooters.



Hutch:cool:

bfisher
08-03-2011, 02:37 AM
Why don't you try hooking up just below the loop and try drawing. If it doesn't pull off the string then it has to be the loop material. Maybe the diameter is just too small for your releases. Hope you get this worked out because dentists can get expensive.

scepterman30x
08-03-2011, 06:25 AM
D-loop is probably slipping between the jaws as they are not totally together when tension is applied the string...probably has nothing to do with trigger tension.

bfisher
08-03-2011, 07:26 AM
D-loop is probably slipping between the jaws as they are not totally together when tension is applied the string...probably has nothing to do with trigger tension.

That's what I was thinking, too, Scott, but I figured the guys would already know that.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-03-2011, 09:46 AM
Just seems like your release needs adjusted for tension. Some set up a release for their draw weight and then failure comes later. Then the jaws of some are just soft enough that they wear at the jaw tips and the loop slips between them. The Boss's release did this one night during league action. I ended up putting a new loop on and then had to adjust his release after he glanced another arrow off the ceiling.x2 Sonny is telling it like it is. I had one let go and well, and the coats took in the back. Ruined some good clothes. I adjusted mine it works well now.



Hutch:cool:

HawgEnvy
08-03-2011, 12:02 PM
well, I inreased tension to the maximum amount possible on both releases. The Truball held, the other didn't. Another punch to the chin. I'm all squinty eyed and leary of shooting. I hate it! The loop is slipping between the jaws on the one release.

HawgEnvy
08-03-2011, 12:49 PM
soooo.. i just used the faulty release on the Athens w no problem,other than a fear of beating myself up again. i decided to try it when i was looking for something and noticed the loop on the Athens held its shape better. upon further inspection,that loop is made of thicker,stiffer material. so what material could it be? it was on there when i got the bow. the strings are Twisted Archer customs. not sure if theloop came from them or not.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-03-2011, 12:49 PM
Time to get the one release fixed. Then build a drawing machine.

Hutch:cool:

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Still it is not the d loop. Twisted archer uses BCY material. No matter what release brand. The jaws have to come together and hold under pressure. If they don't it is faulty. Or needs to be adjusted. I have had many here from Scott to tru-ball to true-fire. Doesn't matter they all grabbed the d loop well. If yours isn't grabbing it is the release.


Hutch:cool:

boobowbender
08-03-2011, 04:25 PM
hawg, we should start shooting fingers again like the good ole days!no more worrying about walking up on deer with out the release on, no more forgetting the release at home. no more clanking against the treestand, and best of all no more punching ourselves in the face. Tim Wells shoots deer at forty yards with fingers!

Destroyer
08-03-2011, 07:04 PM
Would be nice to go back to finger release but there is no way with my hinting rig, 31" ATA is no good with a 30" draw & finger release.

HawgEnvy
08-03-2011, 07:08 PM
hawg, we should start shooting fingers again like the good ole days!no more worrying about walking up on deer with out the release on, no more forgetting the release at home. no more clanking against the treestand, and best of all no more punching ourselves in the face. Tim Wells shoots deer at forty yards with fingers!

fingers not so easy on a 30" ata bow. i never could get the hang of it to where i was consistent. i was using a 40" ata Bear one cam and tried to train myself to switch between a release and fingers in case i lost the release. my groups at 20yds was about 14".lol

boobowbender
08-03-2011, 07:22 PM
i know i know just a pipe dream