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HawgEnvy
08-05-2011, 06:04 PM
i need something fairly inexpensive that will allow low light/night hunts to be filmed decent enough for youtube. ive got a Sony Handycam,and it works pretty good but w/o buying extra accessories i cant put them on PC. something that can be plugged into the computer and uses an SD card would be nice. im working with a craigslist budget. any input is appreciated

Double S
08-05-2011, 06:39 PM
What's your Camcorder only budget?

HawgEnvy
08-05-2011, 07:02 PM
What's your Camcorder only budget?

id like to stay under $100. im mainly looking for recommendations so i can keep an eye on C-list and maybe cut some sort of deal for one. got something,do ya?

Double S
08-05-2011, 07:22 PM
id like to stay under $100. im mainly looking for recommendations so i can keep an eye on C-list and maybe cut some sort of deal for one. got something,do ya?

Sorry Hawg I don't. I wanted to know so that I might be able to steer you a certain direction. I'm using a Canon HF S30.

HawgEnvy
08-05-2011, 07:58 PM
got a pic of the camera? sample vid maybe?

gravedigger
08-05-2011, 09:04 PM
i got a canon fs1000.its a great digital camcorder.fits in the palm of my hand nice,great video.sd card or it plugs into your puter.link.http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-camcorders/canon-fs100-silver/4505-6500_7-32786399.html http://images.imagelinky.com/1312609245.gif (http://images.imagelinky.com/1312609245.gif)

Double S
08-05-2011, 10:04 PM
got a pic of the camera? sample vid maybe?

I do have pics and vids but this cam is around 1,100 bucks.

http://youtu.be/6sDR98XKORA

bfisher
08-06-2011, 03:24 AM
Hawg,

How come you can't download to PC? What model camcorder do you have and what is the format (Mini DV?). I thought all the Handycams had provisions for downloading to PC.

gravedigger
08-06-2011, 06:30 AM
Hawg,

How come you can't download to PC? What model camcorder do you have and what is the format (Mini DV?). I thought all the Handycams had provisions for downloading to PC.

he has tp buy all the acc to plug into his puter,but a guy would think it should have came with all that stuff

HawgEnvy
08-06-2011, 09:13 AM
its a ccd-trv108. it uses the Hi8 mini video cassettes. theres some kind of converter that i need to plug the cam into,then plug that into the computer. i researched it online yesterday and decided it would be more simple and maybe more cost effective to find something ready to rock.

GD,that looks like something that would work. have you youtube'd any vids with it?

Double S, that is a nice set up you have there. not just the camera,either. $1100 is way morethan i have to get started.

gravedigger
08-06-2011, 10:07 AM
its a ccd-trv108. it uses the Hi8 mini video cassettes. theres some kind of converter that i need to plug the cam into,then plug that into the computer. i researched it online yesterday and decided it would be more simple and maybe more cost effective to find something ready to rock.

GD,that looks like something that would work. have you youtube'd any vids with it?

Double S, that is a nice set up you have there. not just the camera,either. $1100 is way morethan i have to get started.

i have not put anything on youtube,and i dont even know how to to be honest.but i paid 350 for it at best buy,spent alot of time researching and alot of time shoping around,in he long run im very happy i bought it.takes great video and the led light on the front is wayway bright.i used it to work on my rig on a back road in the middle of the night.takes good night vid.we really wanted somthing to vid my daughters and for hunting.im taking it with me on my 10 day trip

Ehunter
08-06-2011, 01:28 PM
Hawg, I use a JVC Everio S. Model GZ-MS120. Not the best in low light, but it's small, handy, and does a pretty good job. Sound kinda sucks on it though. It uses the SD cards, so it's easy to transfer to a computer. Pretty cheap cam, and well worth the price for me. Only thing I don't like about them is they have some chrome accents, so I had to break out the camo tape and start covering everything.

dragonsfire311
08-06-2011, 08:11 PM
I'm not sure of the make or cost, but I know they make a camera that screws into your stabilizer mount that use an SD card.

Destroyer
08-06-2011, 08:37 PM
How about one of those 'flip' cameras.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1538944

My sort of price range. ;)

HawgEnvy
08-07-2011, 05:25 AM
check it out. just found it on the Martin online store(shopatron)
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havent figured out how to post a link yet. lol

Destroyer
08-07-2011, 03:07 PM
Link

http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/Mountable+Video+Camera+W/+Aiming+Laser/part_number=1621/189.0.1.1.106085.0.0.0.0?pp=12&

They also have video glasses! :eek:

http://www.shopatron.com/products/category/189.0.1.1.106085.0.0.0.0

http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/189/product_image/thm/t350_ea901d81f56fe0a443b8e376be382258.jpg?13075741 10

HawgEnvy
08-07-2011, 04:13 PM
How about one of those 'flip' cameras.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1538944

My sort of price range. ;)

just looked at one of these at Wally World. Reg price $159.99, on sale $97. will be investigating those more

Ehunter
08-07-2011, 04:28 PM
The problem with the video glasses is that they shoot what your head is pointed at. That is very seldom what you are shooting at. I'd imagine that you'd be filming what was just to the right of your target all the time. That's if you are a righty. lol

Destroyer
08-07-2011, 05:45 PM
just looked at one of these at Wally World. Reg price $159.99, on sale $97. will be investigating those more

Amazon has them cheaper but I'd pay a bit more to be able to take it back easier if needed, not that I can.
http://www.amazon.com/Flip-UltraHD-Video-Camera-Generation/dp/B0040702HA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312769202&sr=8-1

The Flip UltraHD has a 'flip port' so you can plug in compatible microphones, etc, which will be handy. Its also has a battery pack where as the mino's is built in. No card slot for extra storage so 8gb will have to do.

Destroyer
08-07-2011, 05:49 PM
The problem with the video glasses is that they shoot what your head is pointed at.

It would be very annoying to watch as well. I just find it amazing that Martin has them on their site.

Double S
08-07-2011, 05:56 PM
Here's the Tachyon Xc Action Cam I had on one of my bows. But make sure it is legal in your state to have a battery operated device on your bow while hunting. I took this pics for practice.

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Destroyer
08-07-2011, 08:09 PM
Here's the Tachyon Xc Action Cam I had on one of my bows.

What is the picture quality like? Tachyon Micro looks pretty good, waterproof, good extras including Universal Mount but no zoom or lcd screen.

http://www.tachyoninc.com/

I'm also looking at the Kodak PlaySport zx3 (waterproof).

bfisher
08-08-2011, 04:33 AM
he has tp buy all the acc to plug into his puter,but a guy would think it should have came with all that stuff


I'm not up on all this stuff. I know I have a Sony HC7 (mini DV) and it came with all the cords needed. Just ply into the HDV/DV port under the monitor and directly into a USB2 port on the puter. Of course you have to be using some sort of editing program to download it to. A simple one is Windows Moviemaker, but being as I do underwater video (scuba diving) I needed a more upscale editor so I'm using Corel Ulead Pro X3.

gravedigger
08-08-2011, 05:30 AM
I'm not up on all this stuff. I know I have a Sony HC7 (mini DV) and it came with all the cords needed. Just ply into the HDV/DV port under the monitor and directly into a USB2 port on the puter. Of course you have to be using some sort of editing program to download it to. A simple one is Windows Moviemaker, but being as I do underwater video (scuba diving) I needed a more upscale editor so I'm using Corel Ulead Pro X3.

looks like you know more then me.i just plug the cords into ware they fit or put the sd card in my computer and it does the rest,downloads everything and i dont do anything.my wife calls our video cam chris proof.i would not know how to edit to save mylife.lol

MLN1963
08-08-2011, 06:04 AM
My kid has a Flip and he says it makes sounds turning on so keep that in mind if you are using it for hunting.

Double S
08-08-2011, 07:18 AM
What is the picture quality like? Tachyon Micro looks pretty good, waterproof, good extras including Universal Mount but no zoom or lcd screen.

http://www.tachyoninc.com/

I'm also looking at the Kodak PlaySport zx3 (waterproof).

The cam I have is several years old. Maybe the HD ones are way better now. I have a video on Youtube i put together pretending I was hunting and I decided to shoot my Decoy. Keep in mind that after you shoot...you need to keep the bow pointed at the deer until it drops or its out of range. I made sure my bow was balanced and practiced videotaping before I started. I ended up taking it down. I was more worried about the cam if it was on or not than my hunting. If you add the cam to the riser of the bow, your' gonna pick up the vibration from the riser. Because the cam is waterproof to a certain depth. The speaker in internal unless you keep the rear flap open. I had it closed on the second video. The issue I had was when the sun went behind the mountain and I was still hunting, the video looked like I was hunting after hours. It needs the sun above and in front of it to collect the best light possible. No Zoom of course.
http://youtu.be/nehLFZM74zs
http://youtu.be/U-128BPztrs

HawgEnvy
08-08-2011, 07:32 AM
DS,what range was the decoy at? it didnt seem to jump to much at the shot. it looks like something that would be pretty good at 20-25yd shots. that would be legal here. whats the other side look like? how does it mount?

Double S
08-08-2011, 07:47 AM
DS,what range was the decoy at? it didnt seem to jump to much at the shot. it looks like something that would be pretty good at 20-25yd shots. that would be legal here. whats the other side look like? how does it mount?

I think the first shot was at 32 yards then I moved back to 40 yards on the turkey decoy. As soon as you shoot you learn to keep the bow pointed in the general area of the shot. it comes with several type mounts. Take a look at the accessory section or see what comes with each type of camera. The one I use was a side plate with holes in it. It was made to be attached to a helmet. I modified it and used Zipties to attach it to the cam. I placed some some in between the cam and riser so the riser woudn't get scratched.

bfisher
08-08-2011, 07:55 AM
As you can see from the footage the hardest part is keeping the camcorder still. Fast, jerky motions make it very hard to keep up with what's going on, giving the viewer a sense of vertigo. This is something you learn with time. A lot of that can be editied out once you learn how. If there is something you absolutely feel you have to save then you can slow it down. That's the power of editing. When panning do it slow and steady. Probably something very hard to do with a bow mounted system.

Double S
08-08-2011, 08:12 AM
As you can see from the footage the hardest part is keeping the camcorder still. Fast, jerky motions make it very hard to keep up with what's going on, giving the viewer a sense of vertigo. This is something you learn with time. A lot of that can be editied out once you learn how. If there is something you absolutely feel you have to save then you can slow it down. That's the power of editing. When panning do it slow and steady. Probably something very hard to do with a bow mounted system.

Correct. After a days hunting my left arm felt like Jello. Because I always wanted it to be at the ready just in case a Muley jumped up in front of me. You can leave it on for 8 hours at a time but I chose to save battery life. So i turned it on and off as i needed it. Plus for batteries, the lithium batteries are the best.

Destroyer
08-08-2011, 03:25 PM
My kid has a Flip and he says it makes sounds turning on so keep that in mind if you are using it for hunting.

Lol! What sort of sound? That might be a killer. :eek:


The cam I have is several years old. Maybe the HD ones are way better now. I have a video on Youtube i put together pretending I was hunting and I decided to shoot my Decoy.http://youtu.be/nehLFZM74zs
http://youtu.be/U-128BPztrs

Not bad considering the lighting but the zoom is a bit of a problem for me. Not sure you will see a bunny at 40 yards at all, and not with any of the cheap digital zoom cameras either. Maybe I need a three CCD camera! ;)


you need to keep the bow pointed at the deer until it drops or its out of range.

This would take some getting use to.