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Sharxfan
08-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Okay, I was reading on another forum how awesome the Nocturnal lighted nocks where and I sice I have never messed with my arrows before how do you take off the old nock? I am assuming it is glued in or something.

Ehunter
08-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Depending on what arrow and nock you are using, but most just push on/pull off.

Sharxfan
08-09-2011, 06:08 PM
Nice, it is good to hear that they may be just pressed on. Does anyone here use Nockturnal nocks? I looked on their website to check and see if the ID of the arrow makes a difference but they have no real information on the website on what nocks fit what arrows or min I.D. of the arrow to fit the nock. I have Easton Carbon Storms and was trying to find out if the one that fits most arrows will fit mine. I like to do a little research when I am paying that much for a nock.

pizzadave
08-09-2011, 06:28 PM
Nice, it is good to hear that they may be just pressed on. Does anyone here use Nockturnal nocks? I looked on their website to check and see if the ID of the arrow makes a difference but they have no real information on the website on what nocks fit what arrows or min I.D. of the arrow to fit the nock. I have Easton Carbon Storms and was trying to find out if the one that fits most arrows will fit mine. I like to do a little research when I am paying that much for a nock.



I use nockturnal nocks... I LOVE THEM never had one fail, and have TONS of battery life. I installed mine on Carbon Express Mayhem arrows, and all I did was pull the old nock off, and press in the nockturnals... THAT'S IT! I like how they use a regular button to activate the light, rather than motion, or using the aluminum arrow as a conductor... I have never had one shut off hitting a target, or anything... they work awesome... and they are great for the price too. I can get them for $15 locally for 2... which is 25% cheaper than Lumenoks....

MartinMan
08-09-2011, 09:27 PM
The nockturnal nocks are awesome. I just bought some the other day. Easy prep, just pull your old nock and push in the nockturnal. There is a little hole on one side of the nock that use to turn them off. All you need to turn them of is one of your other arrow heads. Great product!

Sharxfan
08-10-2011, 08:42 AM
Don't they automatically come on when you shoot them or do you have to do it manually? I thought the switch was just to turn them off?

Bowhunter_IL_BT
08-10-2011, 12:26 PM
Don't they automatically come on when you shoot them or do you have to do it manually? I thought the switch was just to turn them off?

Yes they do automatically turn on. I tried them for first time last week. The release of the string triggers the button to turn on the nock. To turn it off you use a pocket knife or any sharp point to push it back up. They are much more reliable than lumenoks and esp Easton tracers. The tracers are horrible and had to use a magnet and batteries did not last long on those as well. My buddy complained to Easton about those nocks and offered to give him like 2 packs free. The guy from Easton even admitted when it comes to arrows we do it right, but when it comes to lighted nocks we are not there yet. The design of the nocturnals are perfect.

Another thing to keep in mind is that you have to make sure they fit on your arrows. I have Beman arrows and they are the older ones from a few years ago. When they made the nocturnals they were made to fit the newer Bemans as (S) nocks. I had to buy the Gold Tip (GT) size to fit my Bemans. They are very difficult to get off without breaking them once you have them on. Make sure you line the nock up right esp if you have a containment rest. For a fall away would not matter with no fletching contact to the rest. The only downfall I hear is you cannot replace the batteries. Once they go out thats it. I heard the batteries last a long time though.

boobowbender
08-11-2011, 12:45 AM
used them last year cuz they were on sale, pretty cheap compared. kinda a pain when you accidently set it off and you gotta dig for something to turn it off(happened more than once, maybe even more than five times) - (spend lots of time in trees) blood and fat really messes with trigger causing failure for me, but reliable.
New arrows this year don;t know which route i will take

HawgEnvy
08-11-2011, 05:48 AM
ive thought about trying lighted nocks. just keep changing my mind when i see the price. it would definately make sense for me to get some with all the hunting i do at night. seems like a no brainer. but the price thing...

Sharxfan
08-11-2011, 06:48 AM
I had a $15 gift card to Sportsmans guide so I purchased a set of size S Nockturnal nocks. I figure it should help with losing arrows and maybe even night time tracking if the arrow doesn't pass thorugh. It may be worth the $24 Hawg.

boobowbender
08-11-2011, 07:19 AM
yes hawg they are expensive, but once you start you will never go back, especially with our bows being so fast sometimes you cant even see the shot and point of impact. they are also good tools while tuning.
i've made my own out of lighted bobber lights but they accidently go off and i wasted my money there too.

j-bo
08-11-2011, 09:25 AM
Been thinking about these for some time now and might just have to give them a shot.

What is the best color? The green seems to light up pretty good on their video.

Do ya'll practice with them too or just practice with other arrows and use these for hunting only? Seems to weigh about the same as a regular nock or close enough where POI shouldn't be any different.

Sharxfan
08-11-2011, 10:24 AM
I think I will put it on my hunting arrows only and just before the season I will practice with the Nockturnals to make sure that everything is kosher. I still need to sighti n my 40 and 50 yard pins and put on the broadheads to make sure that everything is good. To much work to do and not enough time before season starts.

boobowbender
08-11-2011, 11:38 AM
you'll want to shoot them a few times to be sure before hunting.
last year i shot green and in brighter situations they were hard to see(one pass through and one miss) shot one doe in low (very low) light and then it stuck out like a sore thumb. red does seem to be brighter the lumenok claims to be much brighter than tracers (check you tube) they can all accidently(probably not the nocturnal) go off while in the case which means dead batteries, so replaceable batteries are a bonus. the tracer needs a spot on your riser or rest to mount a small magnet, about the size of a watch battery.
this year depends on what brand fits my cx 250's, but probaly red

pizzadave
08-11-2011, 06:08 PM
On a night around the 4th, my old man did a shoot off with our Nockturnal nocks... We arched our bows into open grass/trees, he let his Hoyt Ultrasport go, and I let my Martin Cheetah go.... He had green, I had red, and it was BEAUTIFUL.... that one moment alone made up for the cost of them... His deflected off a tree and still was lit up.... now can anybody guess what the distance traveled was?

385 yards for his hoyt
340 yards for my cheetah... (may I add - the next day I found my limbs were cracked)

dragonsfire311
08-11-2011, 10:01 PM
I use lumenoks, how do they compair price wise and performance wise?

pizzadave
08-12-2011, 02:49 AM
As far as comparing different lighted nocks.... I would have the see that nockturnals have the most simple, and efficient design. They have a small button that presses against the string, when you release your string the button is pressed in, AND IT SNAPS IN TIGHT. Then, after you go grab your arrow, you use the point of your arrow, or a knife, to slide a little switch on the side of the nock, which then moves that button back out into the nock's slip area. They have a great design, that can't possibly turn on in your quiver, and from the shots I have taken with mine (about 50 shots) the battery life is great. They are about $7.50 a piece, vs. $10 a piece for lumenoks...... I LOVE NOCKTURNALS, which were recommended by my local Scheels outfitters archery department......

MartinMan
08-13-2011, 10:36 PM
Been thinking about these for some time now and might just have to give them a shot.

What is the best color? The green seems to light up pretty good on their video.

Do ya'll practice with them too or just practice with other arrows and use these for hunting only? Seems to weigh about the same as a regular nock or close enough where POI shouldn't be any different.



I think the color is just a personal choice. When the sun is coming up or going down your able to see either color really well. I use the green ones and they glow pretty bright. Like a few other people mentioned, the ease of use is outstanding. knowing all that I have to do is use a field tip or broad-head to slide the mechanism to shut it off works very well. I shoot Gold Tip Expeditions and they fit just right. No need to tamper with them, just take them out of the package and put them on and your good to go. Good luck trying them out if you do. Happy hunting

Brian

rpalt1
08-15-2011, 07:28 PM
How much more weight do they add compared to regular nocks?

pizzadave
08-16-2011, 02:34 AM
Nockturnals are about 9-10 grains heavier than the average non-illuminated nock.

Spiker
08-16-2011, 05:43 AM
I have been shooting the Nockturnals since they first came out - I still have about 3doz of them.
The only ones that have ever failed on me are the ones that I robin hooded with another arrow. :eek:
As far as the color - I agree that it is part how you perceive color and part the lighting conditions at the time of the shot.
Also background effects etc.
The bummer is:
Colorado considers them an electronic device - hence - illegal to use for hunting! :mad: :mad:

elkslayer4x5
08-16-2011, 06:25 AM
I have been shooting the Nockturnals since they first came out - I still have about 3doz of them.
The only ones that have ever failed on me are the ones that I robin hooded with another arrow. :eek:
As far as the color - I agree that it is part how you perceive color and part the lighting conditions at the time of the shot.
Also background effects etc.
The bummer is:
Colorado considers them an electronic device - hence - ]illegal to use for hunting[/COLOR]! :mad: :mad:

So does Oregon, can't hunt wih them here. :(

Sharxfan
08-16-2011, 06:34 AM
I hadn't thought about that but a lot of guys over here use the for hunting so I am not thinking they are illegal. Just got shipping notification today so hopefully they are here by the weekend.

gravedigger
08-16-2011, 06:47 AM
I hadn't thought about that but a lot of guys over here use the for hunting so I am not thinking they are illegal. Just got shipping notification today so hopefully they are here by the weekend.

just check with the states fish and wild life department,im sure they have an online RESOURCES guide gor archery hunt restrictions.i know i cant have anything electronic on my bow in oregon

j-bo
08-16-2011, 07:04 AM
So does Oregon, can't hunt wih them here. :(

Not a big proponent of law breaking.. but this is one I wouldn't bother following and if busted, I'd gladly argue my points in court. Dumb. All a lighted nock does is help in recovery of a shot animal. Better to not waste an animal, right?

MartinMan
08-16-2011, 09:22 AM
Not a big proponent of law breaking.. but this is one I wouldn't bother following and if busted, I'd gladly argue my points in court. Dumb. All a lighted nock does is help in recovery of a shot animal. Better to not waste an animal, right?



I agree with you wholeheartedly. The nock doesn't aide in the taking of the animal. Some people are just a little too old school i suppose.

Sharxfan
08-16-2011, 12:04 PM
You do know that Louisiana outlawed the use of the Leupold Vendetta? Something about it having a laser that projects and it may aid in siting in on deer or some BS like that.

j-bo
08-16-2011, 12:29 PM
Not sure the Vendetta meets the definition. It's not designed to enhance vision at night.



It is unlawful to hunt with a bow or crossbow fitted with an infrared, laser sight, electrically operated sight or device specifically designed to enhance vision at night (does NOT include non-projecting red dot sights; RS 56:116.1.(b)(4)).

homerj
08-16-2011, 12:34 PM
Bought a Nockturnal last night as I heard good things about them. Tried it out, and it took me about 20 minutes to get it turned off. I tried about 5 different tools, and even loggged ontotheir website to re-watch the video and make sure I was doing it right. Trying to turn it off pulls it out of the shaft. Did I just get a bad one? I like the idea, but this was not a good first impression. Won't go back to Lumenock, may just go back to the Tracers.

Sharxfan
08-16-2011, 12:54 PM
From what Ihave seen it should not be that hard to turn off.

J-bo apparently the Vendetta projects some kind of laser for what I am not sure. Even Leupold got a letter from LA stating the fact. It's the laser dot alignment part that gets them in trouble I believe.

MLN1963
08-16-2011, 01:13 PM
Most common rangefinders project a laser beam to get the distance. It's a bit like laser radar detectors that law enforcement use. It is just a measuring device nothing more, it doesn't project a red dot on the deer. They don't understand how it works, or what it can and can't do.

Sharxfan
08-16-2011, 01:51 PM
From the Loopy website it seems that it does project some kind of red dot on the deer and then you can align your sight with it and zero the sight to the dot.

Bowhunter_IL_BT
08-16-2011, 03:36 PM
Bought a Nockturnal last night as I heard good things about them. Tried it out, and it took me about 20 minutes to get it turned off. I tried about 5 different tools, and even loggged ontotheir website to re-watch the video and make sure I was doing it right. Trying to turn it off pulls it out of the shaft. Did I just get a bad one? I like the idea, but this was not a good first impression. Won't go back to Lumenock, may just go back to the Tracers.

You need a sharp point to turn the nocks off. You can use a pocket knife or the tip or a broadhead after a shot when hunting. Anything with a sharp point should do well. Another to keep in mind is that the nocks are pretty durable. You have to press up hard on it through the little hole. Don't be afraid to press hard.

If the nocks are pulling off the shaft they could be the wrong size. They should fit snug. Nockturnal did screw up some of the sizes last year. I bought the SS nocks to fit on my Bemans like they were supposed to. Problem is they fit the newer diameter ones and not ones from a few years ago. I had to use the GT or Gold Tip size. You may want to experiment or bring in one of your arrows to fit them on better next time.

DeepRiverBowman
08-16-2011, 06:09 PM
I like the Luminocks. They haven't (yet) failed to turn on and are easy to pull out with your fingers (and a slight twist) to turn off. I did have one odd experience with them last season - The deer turned it off!! He reached around and pulled the arrow out by the nock, turning it off in the process. I sat in my tree looking all over for the glowing nock and couldn't figure out what happened until I recovered the arrow and saw the nock was pulled back out.

mike

MLN1963
08-16-2011, 07:08 PM
From the Loopy website it seems that it does project some kind of red dot on the deer and then you can align your sight with it and zero the sight to the dot.

I'll buy that. If it does give a bright red dot on the deer I can see where some les desirables would try use that to their advantage.

However, under normal use there is no dot. I prefer to think we are honest law abiding hunters until we prove otherwise.

Sharxfan
08-22-2011, 04:28 PM
Okay to help some others on here I measured the Nockturnals I got in from SG's the other day. The size "S" nock is ~.245 inches in diameter. I measured it with some calipers at the widest point of the nock. This is the size including the little ridges that crush down a bit when you insert the nock. The main body is about .225 around. I hope this helps you guys out who are on the fence.

BTW no change in POI with the new nocks on the arrow. Tomorrow is broadhead practice.