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peace
08-16-2011, 03:49 AM
Well I am preparing to attend some of the local shoots here possibly beginning this fall, and I am trying to compile a checklist. Most of the stuff I have accumulated but I am wondering if these things are practical or if I have left something out? There is a club shoot around the beginning of September about 70 miles from here and two weeks after that there is one about 30 miles away.

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

3D Equipment Checklist

Primary Items

Bow (w/ all accessories-sight, rest, stab)
release
arrows (6 enough?)
hip quiver
binos
pen/pencil & hole punch
Arrow puller
Allen wrenches
Spare nocks
Canteen or Water Bottle
Collared FanBoy Shirt & Cap


Secondary Items

Portable seat
Poncho and Rubber Boots
Arrow lube
Umbrella
Target cards

NeilMac
08-16-2011, 07:22 AM
I always have eight arrows in the quiver and a few more back at the car.

Also some string wax, a cigarette lighter and at least one spare fibre and pin for my five pin sights (yes, someone DID manage to kick my bow over while I was taking a 'natural break'), a multi-tool is also nice to have and a decent knife capable of easing fast arrows out of solid trees. Last I have a fan boy Martin towel on my belt and an old hand towel in the car for drying the bow on wet days.

peace
08-16-2011, 11:27 AM
3D Equipment Checklist

Primary Items

Bow (w/ all accessories-sight, rest, stab)
release
arrows (Baker’s Dozen)
hip quiver and belt
binos
pen/pencil & hole punch
Multi-Tool
Arrow puller
Arrow lube
Allen wrenches
Spare nocks
Canteen or Water Bottle
Collared FanBoy Shirt, Cap & Towel :cool:


Secondary Items

Tackle Box in Car
Portable seat
Poncho and Rubber Boots
Umbrella

The multi tool comes with on my belt along with a good knife that is normal hunting gear, plus my pocket knife and...
Bic lighter and Wax will probably stay in tackle box, beeswax for recurve, silicone base for compound.
I have a Baker's Dozen of Easton XX78's Super Slams 2514's Super lites cut @ 30.5. Someone was throwing these out, there was about 20 with a large bow case. I was able to salvage 13 for use. That was a good archery find. I figure I can sacrifice these to 3D. All my carbons are cut at 31".

I also have six Easton 2013 Jazz's for the recurve. If I really get into this deeply I will probably create an arrow and fletch solution just for 3D but for now I will sacrifice the aluminum's.

I usually carry a backup compass whenever I am in the woods. I have hiked some of the local portions of the AT. Certain items I don't step into any woods without. I lost my bow sling last year along with some of my hunting calls but that's another story. I might use one of my hiking poles instead of a chair if I get another bow sling, that's a debate. Wondering which governing body to become affiliated with; ASA, IBO, or NFAA? I have read all the rules for each so I am a bit dazed for the moment. :confused:

For binos all I have is some Nikon's 10x50 a bit big but I like them and I have a good strap solution I created from a couple of photography straps. I would like a bit lighter solution but all I have that is smaller is some cheap Bushnell's that I would use but for keeping the kids off my Nikon's. My photographic optics are all Canon but I can't even begin to think of them as a binocular solution as they are way expensive.



Smarten Up and Martin Up

NeilMac
08-16-2011, 11:50 AM
Regarding which gear to carry; just consider what can happen on the course, i.e. You can drop your bow, someone can trip over it, something can come loose or your arrows can get clipped (I have had nocks killed that way). Anything more serious and the chances are you will have to retire from the competition.

As for which governing body: I would look at the schedules and work out where the shoots are that suit you. Also don't forget the R100; I wish they had an R100 series in Europe or at least one comp in the UK as they look like a lot of fun.

NFAA = EFAA in the UK, and unfortunately they (the EFAA) hold almost no 3D shoots, just spots. I shot a two day comp to IFAA / NFAA / EFAA rules a couple of years ago, one day known distances the second day unknown. It was a great shoot, but poorly attended as a lot of the EFAA folk don't like 3D's and a lot of the NFAS (that's the other field / 3D assoc over here) folk don't like the EFAA style of shoots. As far as I'm concerned, they all missed out.

bfisher
08-16-2011, 05:23 PM
Man, you guys take this too seriously. The OP did say LOCAL CLUB SHOOTS. If his are like most of the ones around my neck of the woods they're just fun shoots. No sanctioning body or a lot of hoopla. You shouldn't need a truck to carry so much stuff.

I go to at least one LOCAL 3D shoot almost every week and it's for fun. As such a carry all my stuff in my bow case and a small fishing tackle box. Never being too far from the vehicle I don't carry any tools other than an Allen wrench set (yes, I get some loose screws, too). If something really drastic happens it's time to quit and sort it out.

So here's the list of stuff I carry during CLUB shoots.

Bow (outfitted)
Release
Arrow puller (sometimes)
Arrows (3)---sometimes in a hip quiver, sometimes just in my right front pocket
Swarovski bino 8x30 (sometimes)
Martin shirt/Rytera hat

I ain't goin camping for the weekend so don't need all those other frills. Guess it all depends on how serious you can get and how far you have to travel. Me? I have 20 archery clubs within 35 miles of my house. Umbrellas? Rain gear? If it rains I'm done ro don't even go. Chairs? Stay home if you just want to sit around. In other words, most local club shoots are pretty informal----and a lot more fun than the big sanctioned shoots.

NeilMac
08-16-2011, 08:55 PM
Most club shoots over here are run under one or other of the national associations, and as such, they are run under those rules. Taking yourself and the bow out of your group and off the course is an immediate retirement, so local or national, I carry enough bits'n'pieces to keep me up and running for the whole (36 to 40 target) course.

As we shoot all day, I also carry a few 'munchies' to keep me fuelled up until lunch. Sometimes it's fruit or a power bar of some sort, sometimes it's just a bag of sweets ;)

Do I take shoot seriously? YUP! After all, there is absolutely no money to be won and I may end up with a little 2 inch medal :cool:

peace
08-16-2011, 09:56 PM
Thanks B,
I think I understand that the local shoots are by club rules and I do want to travel light. I was hoping to get away with as few arrows as possible because the water and binos with the exception of the bow are probable the heaviest items I want to tote. Most items I just wanted to be sure I had as I will leave most in the tackle box.

Thanks Neil for the more serious perspective because if God willing I would also by the new year like to participate in some of the sanctioned events. The comments thus far have been very helpful in giving me a better perspective to go out and have some "serious fun."


Smarten Up and Martin Up

EnglishKev
08-17-2011, 04:09 AM
Most club shoots over here are run under one or other of the national associations, and as such, they are run under those rules. Taking yourself and the bow out of your group and off the course is an immediate retirement, so local or national, I carry enough bits'n'pieces to keep me up and running for the whole (36 to 40 target) course.

As we shoot all day, I also carry a few 'munchies' to keep me fuelled up until lunch. Sometimes it's fruit or a power bar of some sort, sometimes it's just a bag of sweets ;)

Do I take shoot seriously? YUP! After all, there is absolutely no money to be won and I may end up with a little 2 inch medal :cool:

Don't knock the medals Buddy, they are priceless!;) LoL

I have been known to take two bows with me to a multi day shoot, if you have problems, although you might have to miss out on a few targets until you get back to the tea tent area, at least you can then carry on shooting with the spare (most shoots over here you rarely shoot more than 1/3rd of the course before it loops you back to the tea tent).

To the shoot I take 1 or 2 bowcases each containing a bow/quiver and the relevant arrows.
Arrows are divided into wet (fobs) and dry (feathers), up to a dozen of each.
My range bag goes as well.
That contains tools, spares, bowrest, portable bow press, my belt pack I wear around the course and sundry other stuff.
Shooting seat, this will carry stuff around the course; small kit contaning tools, nocks, points, wax, serving thread, also snacks and waterproofs if required, and a camera if allowed.

On the course I have the aforementioned seat and wear my belt pack containing spare release, pens, water bottle, insect repellent, some target ID cards, safety whistle and arrow lube.
Also obviously I take the bow with 6 arrows in the quiver.

Kev

bfisher
08-17-2011, 09:55 AM
I would say that most of the shoots I attend on weekends are 30 target affairs. There are several during evenings thru the weeks which are only 15 targets. I do have to admit that sometimes bug spray is the order of the day/evening, but rather than mess with that I just take my one shooting buddy who wears a Thermacell and keep him close.

When it gets close to hunting season we have a couple clubs that put on shoots consisting of four courses of 20 shots each. For these I normally pack a bottle of water, frozen. Comes in mighty handy at times. And just like Kevin said, most of the shoots I attend loop back to the club house where there is food and other refreshments.

I used to attend bigger, sanctioned shoots, and did pretty well, but several things led me away from them for a period of a couple years so now I find them quite boring. Standing in line or needing a chair to rest while waiting on several groups in front of me is not my idea of fun any more. I like to shoot and if I can't do that I'd much rather spend my time at these laid back club shoots and mentor/coach some younger or less experienced folks along. Giving something back to the sport is very satisfying to me. And being looked up to for doing so does more for my ego than some of the medals/trophies I have gathering dust.

Sorry to rant so long, and I have no animosity toward anybody who takes things seriously. I did at one time so I know what your thoughts are. I'm just contributing my thoughts as a way of showing how life evolves and what becomes more important.

peace
08-17-2011, 10:49 AM
I am enjoying learning about this side of archery from the English as well as the American. I dig all things international. :cool:

I think I will enjoy meeting people who like to fling arrows and learn from the diversity. There is a little competitive spark left in me but it really is not my major focus as I am a pretty content person these days. At some point I would like to do some photography but at first I will just concentrate on the archery. My Martin fanboy shirt should be here today so I am psyched.

NeilMac
08-17-2011, 11:11 AM
Please don't think that I am serious about winning, I'm not. I'm serious about beating the course setter, but one of the best days archery I ever had, I came third and took three arrows to hit a goose 20 yards away (shooting over still water, hmmmm).

Kev on the other hand is an extremely competitive person. Fortunately for him (or is that me) we shoot in different classes, as I shoot fingers and he shoots release. Unfortunately for him, he insist on using good practical hunting type gear, were as many of his fellow competitors shoot bows with more gadgets and gizmo's attached than the International space station. Kev is also quite elderly, and needs to sit down frequently, although he did have the last laugh when three of his fellow competitors (including me) had to twist themselves into extremely uncomfortable and unbecoming positions in order to shoot under a low branch and into the kill. Wise Kev just put his seat near the peg and sat down (with, I'm sorry to say, a rather smug look on his face).

I have, in the past, won a lot of local comps and it IS nice to get a medal, but I would much rather spend the day having a laugh in good company and come last, than spend the day with some miserable hyper competitive types (like Kev) and win...yes, I have had shoots like that:(

3D is great fun and you guys do have some terrific comps that you can attend. It's a little more formal over here, but as at least 80% of competitors are shooting some sort of instinctive style, it is difficult to take yourself too seriously, as you will usually get a good ribbing from the trad guys (and gals) if you do; like the time I just missed the pro ring on a close target, only to have a guy with an (English) longbow nail it....oh dear!

peace
08-17-2011, 05:30 PM
3D is great fun and you guys do have some terrific comps that you can attend. It's a little more formal over here, but as at least 80% of competitors are shooting some sort of instinctive style, it is difficult to take yourself too seriously, as you will usually get a good ribbing from the trad guys (and gals) if you do; like the time I just missed the pro ring on a close target, only to have a guy with an (English) longbow nail it....oh dear!



This I could really visualize and had me LOL! :D

EnglishKev
08-18-2011, 04:20 AM
Kev on the other hand is an extremely competitive person. Fortunately for him (or is that me) we shoot in different classes, as I shoot fingers and he shoots release. Unfortunately for him, he insist on using good practical hunting type gear, were as many of his fellow competitors shoot bows with more gadgets and gizmo's attached than the International space station.

The only release class we have over here is Unlimited, so that is what I have to do.
Don't like all ths long stabs and other garbage on my bows or shooting ultralight 'knitting needle' arrows.
OK, so I ain't gonna win all the time (but it does happen ocasionally) but think of the satisfaction I get when I regularly whip most of the twiddley sight scope shooters.:D

Kev is also quite elderly, and needs to sit down frequently, although he did have the last laugh when three of his fellow competitors (including me) had to twist themselves into extremely uncomfortable and unbecoming positions in order to shoot under a low branch and into the kill. Wise Kev just put his seat near the peg and sat down (with, I'm sorry to say, a rather smug look on his face).

, Umm, ain't we the same age? LoL. You is just jealous of my seat.
Why stand all day, no point in getting older if you don't get wiser:cool:
Luckily I practice shooting sitting down (ready for hunting).
Talking of looks on faces, you guy's were a picture when I did it

I have, in the past, won a lot of local comps and it IS nice to get a medal, but I would much rather spend the day having a laugh in good company and come last, than spend the day with some miserable hyper competitive types (like Kev) (:p )and win...yes, I have had shoots like that

3D is great fun and you guys do have some terrific comps that you can attend. It's a little more formal over here, but as at least 80% of competitors are shooting some sort of instinctive style, it is difficult to take yourself too seriously, as you will usually get a good ribbing from the trad guys (and gals) if you do; like the time I just missed the pro ring on a close target, only to have a guy with an (English) longbow nail it....oh dear!

Al least he didn't smack your arrow like I got in the challenge, also from a stick shooter
Most annoying thing was I had to give him the same score as my arrow

Anyway Bud, when are you coming down to shoot again?

Kev

NeilMac
08-18-2011, 10:04 AM
Anyway Bud, when are you coming down to shoot again?

Kev

Kind you to invite me. I've got Hawk this w/e and then I really need to decide which of the Cat's is THE CAT before the Nat's in Sept. So it better be pretty soon.

I'll be in touch.

BTW, I think you may be a little longer in the tooth, as I am a mere youngster (of 52). :cool: