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bowhunter8point
08-25-2011, 05:30 AM
first off this might be in the wrong section but i need some help for my wife.
she is shooting a compound but with her fingers. is there any thing i can tell or show her on how to improve she is fine at 20 yrds but anything after that she has about 5" to 8" groups.
i have never shot with fingers so i dont know much about shooting like that but she refuses to use a release.
is her form good?
she does have a kisser on the string but anyways any help would be great.




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DeepRiverBowman
08-25-2011, 09:15 AM
Form looks good. Anchor looks good. Relax hand on bow. Is she using a tab? I can't tell. Bare fingers makes for a sloppy release. Biggest problem I see is the bow is too short for a finger shooter. To shoot fingers well, you need a long(er) A2A.

mike

bfisher
08-25-2011, 10:30 AM
Welcome to the Tech Forums. Hope you find this place more user friendly than AT. We're a pretty small and friendly group here so don't be shy. We also like first names and pictures when applicable---lots of pictures.

Saw this on AT bit ago and there are some good suggestions there. The problem is there are too many suggestions. Yeh, who do you listen to?

The a2a has already been mentioned and it probably is an issue, but she already has the bow and is apparently enjoying it. I'd like to see a clearer picture, but we'll work with what we have. What rest is on the bow? Is it for fingers or release?

Is she planning on hunting? If not then take the quiver off the bow. The short a2a allows for more movement at the shot and the weight of a quiver on one side will exaggerate it. Loosen up on the wrist sling. It should not be tight to her wrist. Is she gripping the bow tight? Try loosening the grip to being totally relaxed. Try turning the bow hand out at about a 45 degree angle so she shoots more off the meat of the thumb and getting the bow off the palm of her hand.

Her overall body posture isn't bad, but could use a some tweaking. Most notably she is leaning back slightly. She just needs to distribute her weight more evenly on both feet and pull her hips backwards to stand upright. You already read it on AT, but keep the upper body in a T shape as when shooting level and bend at the waist to shoot down. Also it looks like she is tilting her head into the string to see through the peep. Not bad but just a little. I'd suggest she look at the target and keep looking at it while she draws and anchors. If she can't see through the peep then maybe it needs moved a little (probably higher).

As I said, not bad overall. Just some slight adjustments. Try one at a time trying to get it right. Then let her shoot enough to adjust to a new feel. Then make another change. Do it in steps. Last but not least is to let her have fun.

I also read that she shoots every evening. Sounds like you may not be getting your dinner on a regular basis. LOL. Nature of the beast. You started it, right?

You are likely going to get more help so don't be shy. We request that you report back with progress reports so that we can learn if we know what we're talking about. LOL.

NeilMac
08-25-2011, 11:20 AM
Just to add one point: A clearer picture would show this better, but she appears to be slightly twisted at the waist, towards the bow. This means that her chest is making contact with the string (I'm trying to be delicate here).

It may just be the photo, but if the string is making contact, than that will affect every shot slightly differently.

parkerd
08-25-2011, 01:58 PM
I know this might be off-topic but your a junior member and married???

Destroyer
08-25-2011, 02:56 PM
Draw length too long, ATA is too short. Easy fix, get her a release aid and shorten the draw length.

bigredhunter00
08-25-2011, 03:49 PM
Like the others said to shoot fingers u need a longer ata. I shoot an old compound bear with fingers and my ata is 47.5 inches. Yeah my dl is alot
longer than hers 30 inches with fingers, but it keeps ur fingers from being pinched by the nocking point and string. Either a longer ata bow or shoot
with a release would be my suggestion. Thats just my two cents!

parkerd
08-25-2011, 03:56 PM
Junior is a relative thing. How long here and/or number of posts.

I was junior at age 61! :cool:

So age is measured mentaly?? hah

bowhunter8point
08-26-2011, 04:26 AM
I know this might be off-topic but your a junior member and married???

yea im 30 yrs old and my wife is 26

bowhunter8point
08-26-2011, 04:32 AM
4094

told her about some of the tips you guys said and bought here a finger glove and now she is getting good groups at 30 yrds..
thanks again

bfisher
08-26-2011, 05:06 AM
If that's a pic of her 30 yard groups she doesn't need much help from us. She should be helping us. LOL.

RLW
08-26-2011, 05:18 AM
I just started using a release 2 years ago after 30 years or more of finger shooting.

My highly preferred arrow rest for finger shooting is a NAP Centerest Flipper http://www.newarchery.com/products/2-21/arrow-rests/centerest-flipper.html
Just a good simple reliable rest for finger shooting......and a heck of alot less money than most out there.

From the picture it appears she shots with all 3 fingers under the arrow, so I'm assuming no tab and maybe bare fingers (ouch!)
Tabs can work well with one finger on top, but I never really liked the feel I got from the several I had. My personal preference here is a 3 finger glove. (& I use one finger above, with very minimal pressure on bottom finger) My choice for many years was (is) Martin's full leather glove http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/Martin+Genuine+Leather+Glove/part_number=245/189.0.1.1.23388.0.0.0.0?pp=12&

....and of course there is the axle-to-axle length mentioned several times.
I have a 29" draw length and the old, still nice shooting, '96 Martin Firecat I use with fingers is 43", but I have shot bow down around 38-40" without too bad of finger pinch issues.
My son shoots a Martin Jaguar (or did?....hasn't touched it in 2yrs) It is about 36.5" and he shoots fingers with it ok with a 28" draw.......he also uses glove (& not even a sight).

Just getting down the basic things make a big deal....consistent solid anchor point.....gently relaxing fingers for shot, not pulling them off.....good follow thru, trying not to drop arm until arrow hits......etc.

bowhunter8point
08-26-2011, 05:32 AM
If that's a pic of her 30 yard groups she doesn't need much help from us. She should be helping us. LOL.

yea she shot that last night it was her hand she was sqeezing the bow when she was shooting i told her to loosen up the grip and boom thats what she shot
i also think it was the arrows i cut a few of mine down for her and they fly alot better then her other arrows...

Destroyer
08-26-2011, 02:56 PM
If that's a pic of her 30 yard groups she doesn't need much help from us.

Exactly right.

Arrow Splitter
08-27-2011, 04:06 PM
So age is measured mentaly?? hahI was a Senior Member at age 17.:p:D

Destroyer
08-27-2011, 04:11 PM
I was a Senior Member at age 17

That just doesn't sound right A.S! ;)

bfisher
08-27-2011, 04:30 PM
I was a Senior Member at age 17.:p:D

That's cause you don't have a job. Spend all day on the puter. Typical of.........what do we call your generation anyway? My kid is 32 and he is GenX. If I was your ole man I'd kick you out at 6am and tell you not to come back till you get a job. Pack a lunch, too.

Arrow Splitter
08-27-2011, 04:46 PM
That's cause you don't have a job. Spend all day on the puter. Typical of.........what do we call your generation anyway? My kid is 32 and he is GenX. If I was your ole man I'd kick you out at 6am and tell you not to come back till you get a job. Pack a lunch, too.I think you should have read my profile again before posting.;) Also, I start college this Tuesday. I'm going to be a machinist.:cool:

bfisher
08-27-2011, 05:01 PM
I think you should have read my profile again before posting.;) Also, I start college this Tuesday. I'm going to be a machinist.:cool:

Yeah yeah, likely excuse. Just like my kid. Graduated college, got his masters, got a wife and two kids of his own and still won't leave me alone.

Well, on second thought I'll cut ya some slack. LOL.

Help your ole man get ready for Irene.

Arrow Splitter
08-27-2011, 05:08 PM
Yeah yeah, likely excuse. I know, it was too much work at your age to click my username and view the "about me" section.LOL:p I work for Shaw's Supermarkets. I even worked today, 9:30am to 5:30pm.:D