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Rangerj
11-21-2011, 04:45 PM
While looking through the 2010 Martin Bows Catalog I didn't see the Firecat or Cheetah.What models replaced these bows?Thanks

bfisher
11-22-2011, 03:59 AM
My guess would be the Cougar as a replacement for the FireCat (1" shorter), Grrrr. And the Prowler would replace the Cheetah. Heck, who knows for sure. They're all these stubby, too short bows. I'm waiting to see what Rytera has. Otherwise the only thing that tickles my fancy iss the Scepter V.

MLN1963
11-22-2011, 04:42 AM
My guess would be the Cougar as a replacement for the FireCat (1" shorter), Grrrr. And the Prowler would replace the Cheetah. Heck, who knows for sure. They're all these stubby, too short bows. I'm waiting to see what Rytera has. Otherwise the only thing that tickles my fancy iss the Scepter V.

I'm curious to see if the Cougar FC and Silencer really were redesigned to be 1" shorter in 2012 or if it is just another typo in the manual. They sure look identical to the 2011s but it would be very hard to discern 1" in a photo. Economically it makes no sense to redesign then for one inch, we'll see when they hit the stores. My money is on a name change only.

elkslayer4x5
11-22-2011, 04:55 AM
They have added another 62 recurve, doubt if it will ever out sell the Martin Hunter, a bow thats been in production for more than 50 years. And it seems no-one ever want to sell one either, very few show up on evilbay. Any one know what the Gail Martin Signatue Recurve will sell for?

HawgEnvy
11-22-2011, 06:14 AM
cougar FC(Fire cat?) has the same riser design with the fang and can be had in dual or single cam so that leads me to believe it replaced the Firecat 360(single cam)and 400(hybrid). the Exile is the Cheetah w NO provisions for the rear mount STS,the Exile Pro has the the threaded hole behind the stabilizer for the STS and is 'bout $100 more(which makes no sense whatsoever) and the Prowler Pro is 1" shorter than the Exile(Cheetah) and is priced between the two,IIRC.

what I don't understand is why the Crossfire has a lower IBO rating w the Nitro cams than the others with the same cams. to me,it pretty much makes this model useless. not that I personally care about the speed rating. that would in no way prevent me from buying the Crossfire,it's just a thought I had.

I really would like to try the Exile and the Prowler Pro w the new single cam,just because i like the little stubby guys.I am really enjoying my Quest XPB and also like the Quest QS33 that my brother has. So I will be doing a comparison between the Quest Rogue and Torrent,the Exile and Prowler Pro,and have been doing my homework looking at the new offerings from Ross as well. Athens is out of the picture unless a dealer pops up close by. I'm not driving from one side of the state to the other to test run a new bow.

coolray
11-24-2011, 09:17 AM
Hi guys I'm new to archery. I just bought a Martin Exile and was interested in opinions for the best medium price range bow and the weight tip for target practicing?

Thanks!!

gravedigger
11-24-2011, 09:23 AM
Hi guys I'm new to archery. I just bought a Martin Exile and was interested in opinions for the best medium price range bow and the weight tip for target practicing?

Thanks!!

welcome to the forum.what draw weight are you going to be shooting,whats your draw length,

100grn feild tip are the most comon.that exile is a great bow.a good budy of mine has one and he loves it.start new threads with questions you have and dont be afraid to ask as many questions as you can,if you dont know then ask and we will get ya goning

coolray
11-24-2011, 10:52 AM
welcome to the forum.what draw weight are you going to be shooting,whats your draw length,

100grn feild tip are the most comon.that exile is a great bow.a good budy of mine has one and he loves it.start new threads with questions you have and dont be afraid to ask as many questions as you can,if you dont know then ask and we will get ya goning

Thanks for the quick reply. My draw length is 27" and I will probably start at 60lb draw.

gravedigger
11-24-2011, 11:05 AM
i would check out beman ICS arrows,they dont cost an arm and a leg.i am a big fan of golt tip,a few guy on here shoot harvest time,i assume you were looking for cheep arrows.

droppixel
11-24-2011, 04:22 PM
really like to track down a martin dealer near by to see some of these when they get in. Love my '08 but would like to get my hands one something newer in the not so near future, but sooner than later if that all makes sense.

The Bengal is looking pretty damn sharp and I'm still wanting to see how the Onza is.

Speedykills
11-24-2011, 04:37 PM
Bengal or cougar look to be some nice shooters............

coolray
11-24-2011, 06:09 PM
i would check out beman ICS arrows,they dont cost an arm and a leg.i am a big fan of golt tip,a few guy on here shoot harvest time,i assume you were looking for cheep arrows.

Cheap works to start out with.

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

gravedigger
11-24-2011, 08:48 PM
Cheap works to start out with.

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

just to throw it out ther,when i said cheep i was talking price.ICS is a great arrow.strong and shoot straight.i can get a doz fleched and ready to rock for around 60.00.

ElkSlayer
11-25-2011, 05:46 AM
just to throw it out ther,when i said cheep i was talking price.ICS is a great arrow.strong and shoot straight.i can get a doz fleched and ready to rock for around 60.00.

prety solid shaft for the money beman makes agood product

bfisher
11-25-2011, 10:29 AM
prety solid shaft for the money beman makes agood product

Hope you know that Beman is owned and operated by Easton. That's why so many Beman arrow shafts are just clone of those marketed under the Easton banner. Not saying that one is better than the other, but the quality of like shafts would be equal.

elkslayer4x5
11-27-2011, 06:32 AM
Hope you know that Beman is owned and operated by Easton. That's why so many Beman arrow shafts are just clone of those marketed under the Easton banner. Not saying that one is better than the other, but the quality of like shafts would be equal.

Thanks for that Barry. Its like I tell Elkslayer, you can learn something new every day if you pay attention. :)

gravedigger
11-27-2011, 07:28 AM
Hope you know that Beman is owned and operated by Easton. That's why so many Beman arrow shafts are just clone of those marketed under the Easton banner. Not saying that one is better than the other, but the quality of like shafts would be equal.

i really did not know that.learn something every day

ElkSlayer
11-27-2011, 08:16 AM
It only makes sence... good to know... what i remember about Beman was, they made Air guns..used to make pars for them way back when..

Its like my vapor's they were made By Gold Tip

bfisher
11-27-2011, 10:46 AM
It only makes sence... good to know... what i remember about Beman was, they made Air guns..used to make pars for them way back when..

Its like my vapor's they were made By Gold Tip

Exactly, although it was more recent. Blackhawk Archery used to be it's own entity. I forget the year, but it was like around 2006 that Gold Tip bought them. Since then the Vapor line has been diminshed a lot. From a business stand point it just doesn't make much sense to have redundant products. One shaft made by Balckhawk was their CAA line which were pretty favorable in specs and quality to the Easton ACC's, but at about 2/3 the cost. These were then discontinued and funny how it works, but that's about the time the Korean (CE) arrows seemed to take a big jump in price to the point of being rediculous.