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bob cooly
12-26-2011, 02:52 PM
My grandson is really wanting to go hunting with me, he's 11 and very athletic. Currently have him shooting a Genesis Pro but looking for a first bow for more serious stuff. Thinking about a new Exile, how low can you get the draw weight down to on the new ones? Thinking a 50lb should go down to 35 or so.

SJunior
12-26-2011, 02:55 PM
Got my boy a 2011 Leopard, probably work better than the Exile beings the draw length goes from 21-26".

Arrow Splitter
12-26-2011, 03:24 PM
My grandson is really wanting to go hunting with me, he's 11 and very athletic. Currently have him shooting a Genesis Pro but looking for a first bow for more serious stuff. Thinking about a new Exile, how low can you get the draw weight down to on the new ones? Thinking a 50lb should go down to 35 or so.That is correct. A Martin bow that is rated for 50 lbs. will go down 35 lbs. I don't know how long your grandson's draw length is, but Martin's shortest draw length for 2012 is 24" on three models. The models with 24" min. draw lengths are the Bengal Pro, the Crossfire Pro, and the Prowler Pro (Gold series bow).

A.S

gravedigger
12-26-2011, 03:42 PM
That is correct. A Martin bow that is rated for 50 lbs. will go down 35 lbs. I don't know how long your grandson's draw length is, but Martin's shortest draw length for 2012 is 24" on three models. The models with 24" min. draw lengths are the Bengal Pro, the Crossfire Pro, and the Prowler Pro (Gold series bow).

A.S

and the bengal pro will go down to 35lbs to 70lbs.so a kid can grow up with it.

bcriner
12-27-2011, 04:30 AM
Just an FYI, the leopard will not go lower than 23" for any year except the early models with the mini M-pro cam. it would go to 21 1/2". Once they switched to the mini accu-track cam, 23" was the shortest.

SJunior
12-27-2011, 06:07 AM
My son's 2011 will go down to 21".

bcriner
12-27-2011, 06:22 AM
I was told that under the factory specs, that the Leopard will only go to 23" with the accu-track cams. I even have one and sure enough, I cannot get less than 23" at specs, unless I replace the string with a shorter one. When you compare the cam and idler wheel to the original mini m-pro, the accu-tracs are larger so i don't see how it can go down to 21". I am not going to say that yours does not. I am just stating what I was told and have experienced.

ElkSlayer
12-27-2011, 08:20 AM
so what is his DL

SJunior
12-27-2011, 08:38 AM
If you do a search on ebay there are some from 21-26 and some are 23-27. Maybe Joel can jump in here and tell us why the difference.

Sorry about getting off topic Bob. Best to check his draw length before choosing a bow, you want to be sure the bow fits him so he doesn't create bad habits with too long a draw.

bob cooly
12-27-2011, 12:19 PM
Thanks for the input. He's going to be a tall lad my daughters 6'2" and his dad is 6'5". There's actually two of them, one 7 and 11, have got them shooting a Genesis right now, but can see that the 11 year old will want to hunt very soon. I have some time but would like something He can grow into a little. I see him pulling 45lbs in another year or two. Right now he's a 24" draw but I can see that increasing at least and inch a year for the next 6-8 years. Seems like there are alot of good bows right now for growing kids to have something they can shoot for awhile.

SJunior
12-27-2011, 12:32 PM
With a 24 inch draw i'd definitely look at a 2012, I'm kinda partial to the Bengal myself. :)

bob cooly
12-28-2011, 05:47 AM
I am a fan of 50lb peak draw weights for deer and wonder what the new Fury cam would back down to in a 50lb peak bow? This just might be the ticket for the grandson. The Bengal or Prowler would be my first choice.

Arrow Splitter
12-28-2011, 06:24 AM
I am a fan of 50lb peak draw weights for deer and wonder what the new Fury cam would back down to in a 50lb peak bow? This just might be the ticket for the grandson. The Bengal or Prowler would be my first choice.Someone else may know for sure, but I doubt Martin has changed the weight adjustability in their new bows. The new bows should still have 15 lb. of adjustability.

A.S

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 06:25 AM
Someone else may know for sure, but I doubt Martin has changed the weight adjustability in their new bows. The new bows should still have 15 lb. of adjustability.

A.S

the new bengal goes from 35 to 70 lbs.hence the 3 posts on the new cam.

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 06:28 AM
the new bengal goes from 35 to 70 lbs.hence the 3 posts on the new cam.

i take that back,i have been dooped by myself.i think it might have been a different bow i was reading about.ok so now i dont take it back.dang there are to many bows out,my brain is about to blow but yes indeed the bengal goes from 35 to 70lbs


At first glance you'll find you can't quite take your eyes
off it. Look closer and you'll see why. With a longer riser
and more extreme limb take off angle, the Bengal adds
stability. The incredible new Fury XT single cam allows
you to easily change the bow from 30.5" of draw to 24"
in half inch increments and allows a 70# bow to be adjusted
all the way down to 35#. Our integrated adjustable draw
stop allows for tuning to exactly the draw length you desire.
All this adjustability from a cam that produces speeds of
330 FPS. Coupled with the four Vibration Vortex VEM's,
the Bengal has taken quiet, smooth, and shock-free to a
new level, delivering dead silent, shock free shots every

Arrow Splitter
12-28-2011, 06:32 AM
Yeah, you aren't talking about a Martin LOL. Martin bows still are available with the same peak draw weights.

EDIT: Ok, now you're messing me up. LOL Something is missing here.:confused:

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 06:33 AM
Yeah, you aren't talking about a Martin LOL. Martin bows still are available with the same peak draw weights.

nope look again. bengal can be adjusted from 35 to 70 lbs with the new cam.http://www.martinarchery.com/2012/bengal_pro.php

Arrow Splitter
12-28-2011, 06:35 AM
Now read the Bengal's specs:
Specs

Fury XT Single Cam*
Speed...................320-330 FPS
(70#, 30", 350 gr.)
Let-Off..................80% (adjustable)
Peak Draw Weight..50#, 60#, 70#
Draw Length..........24" to 30.5"
Brace Height..........7"
Weight...................3.8 lbs.
Axle Length............31"
* Approximate

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 06:38 AM
Now read the Bengal's specs:
Specs

Fury XT Single Cam*
Speed...................320-330 FPS
(70#, 30", 350 gr.)
Let-Off..................80% (adjustable)
Peak Draw Weight..50#, 60#, 70#
Draw Length..........24" to 30.5"
Brace Height..........7"
Weight...................3.8 lbs.
Axle Length............31"
* Approximate

for sure but thouse are probly peek weights for differnt limbs.you can still take a new 70 lb bengal and drop it down to 35 useing the pegs on the new cam and rotating mod.it say in the add the new bengal goes from a 70 lb bow but can go down to 35 off a 70lb bow.

martin is steping up the game this year:cool:

Arrow Splitter
12-28-2011, 06:53 AM
martin is steping up the game this year:cool:Oh yeah!:cool:

Money Man
12-28-2011, 06:58 AM
So if the 70# can go down to 35#, I think the question being asked is can a 50# go down to 15#. I am trying to figure out if it has 35# of adjustment, or does it just cut the peak weight in half. If it just cuts it in half, the 50# may only go to 25#.

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 07:22 AM
So if the 70# can go down to 35#, I think the question being asked is can a 50# go down to 15#. I am trying to figure out if it has 35# of adjustment, or does it just cut the peak weight in half. If it just cuts it in half, the 50# may only go to 25#.

im wondering the same thing.

MLN1963
12-28-2011, 07:44 AM
Why don't you give Martin a call and ask the question. They are good about finding that stuff out for people. Here is the number 509.529.2554

gravedigger
12-28-2011, 08:25 AM
Why don't you give Martin a call and ask the question. They are good about finding that stuff out for people. Here is the number 509.529.2554

go for it.im hopeing joel might come on and let us know whats up.:cool:

bob cooly
12-28-2011, 01:54 PM
Now I think you guys are getting close. I really want to know how far down a 50lb bow will go. My Onza 3 50lb will go down to 35lbs, but it's still a bit much for the youngster to handle. The last thing I want to do is discourage him by having too much bow to start with. Hopefully Martin will get their 2012 store online so we can get a handle on the prices coming out. If all else fails there is the Mission Craze that goes from 15 to 70 pounds. For myself I am eyeballing the new Pantera, like the longer ATA, if I wanted a shorty the Crossfire looks good.

Money Man
12-28-2011, 03:25 PM
Some body posted 2012 prices on here, but I can't find the thread.