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NuttyNative
01-12-2012, 05:58 PM
Should be here Monday. I won't let the cat outta the bag just yet! From what I'm told it's the very last left handed 2011 model of the bow. Last year I also bought the last left handed 2010 Oneida Extreme to leave the factory. Kinda cool & kinda sad at the same time. Got the last one, but the models are dropped from the line up.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-13-2012, 12:18 AM
Good for you Nutty Native. Can't wait to see the pics of it.






Hutch:cool:

NuttyNative
01-16-2012, 10:00 AM
Arrived at 12:00 today, guess they deliver on MLK day, I totally spaced it was a holiday today.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Martin001.jpg

gravedigger
01-16-2012, 10:14 AM
thats a nice looking box.looks like it will shoot well.lol

oh ya its a holiday today.paid for me so im sitting at home doing nothing at all and lovin evey min of it.

ok so whats in the box.got to know

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-16-2012, 10:16 AM
Can you let the cat out of the bag, and stop keeping us in suspense:p.





Hutch:cool:

Skbengal
01-16-2012, 11:34 AM
Let's see your new baby already! The box is just a tease! Congrats on the new bow by the way!

gravedigger
01-16-2012, 11:40 AM
tick toc wahts in the box.:)

droppixel
01-16-2012, 12:05 PM
Tried zooming in to see if there was a name on one of the labels ... gets too pixelated =(

NuttyNative
01-16-2012, 12:32 PM
Well guys, the Cat is definatly outta the bag. Don't really know what to think about it yet. Nice looking & feeling bow but there may be an issue with the limbs and I won't know till Thursday when I can verify things, I start my night shifts tonight.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360003.jpg


Last Wednesday I spent several hours on the phone with various Martin dealers in Nevada, California, and Washington trying to locate a left hand Firecat 360 with 50-65lb limbs and a normal cable slide. Everyone said they would check & get back with me. One dealer from Walla Walla was the only one to get back and said they had one left, black with 45-60lb limbs. After talking with him a bit he said he'd call them in the morning and ask about 50-65lb limbs & the slide.

Last Thursday morning at work I got a call from him. He said the bow was made 6-22-11 and already had the TRG/SOS replaced with the straight slide. He also said the limbs were where I wanted them and topped out at 66lbs, so I bought it. Looking at all the tags on the bow tells me it has 45-60lb limbs? The numbers are changed with a sharpie marker except for the quality checklist which is clearly 60.4 pounds. So I'll have to wait till Thursday afternoon to check the poundage. Not a big issue, but possibly not what I was told.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360009.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360007.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360010.jpg

NuttyNative
01-16-2012, 12:37 PM
It only lets me attach 4 pics, so here's more.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360001.jpg
Also a little dissappointed in the finish/dip job, several blemishes. I had no choice in the color but can live with it.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/Firecat360006.jpg
This also should have deen addressed at the factory.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/360001.jpg

Just a little confused right now. I had two other possibilities lined up for half the cost of this one. One was new a 09 new in the box, and the other I never bid on. Kinda feels like I been played just to sell the bow. In the end it was my decision to buy the 360 because I love the riser.

Speedykills
01-16-2012, 01:49 PM
Kinda weird like they did that to fool someone,maybe they thought you were a noob..not martins fault....maybe it was a demo too.Big question are you satisfied if so then thats all that counts.Nice bow too.

NuttyNative
01-16-2012, 02:05 PM
Kinda weird like they did that to fool someone,maybe they thought you were a noob..not martins fault....maybe it was a demo too.Big question are you satisfied if so then thats all that counts.Nice bow too.

Honestly I don't know yet, going to set it up & shoot it first. Not crazy about the color but I bought it for the bow itself, we'll see.

Spiker
01-16-2012, 02:28 PM
What is the deflection # on the limbs?

NuttyNative
01-16-2012, 02:48 PM
3LP 1815 on both.

droppixel
01-17-2012, 06:41 AM
Aside from those little blemishes you pointed out, it looks sweet! I've been taking a liking to the carbon fiber finishes. I'm sure it doesn't matter match being 20 feet up if you were shooting a carbon finish vs a camo pattern, right?

NuttyNative
01-17-2012, 02:57 PM
3LP 1815 on both. Any help here? I don't know where to look for the deflection codes.
Also, the manuals that came with it don't tell you what the modules are?? I have F1,2,3,4,6,7 and guessing F5 is in the bow.


Aside from those little blemishes you pointed out, it looks sweet! I've been taking a liking to the carbon fiber finishes. I'm sure it doesn't matter match being 20 feet up if you were shooting a carbon finish vs a camo pattern, right? So true, but I'm not too crazy about the carbon fiber on the riser. I was expecting flat black riser with carbon limbs based on pictures in the catalog. After I figure everything out I'll send it out for a bath in Max1 if all goes well.

Spiker
01-17-2012, 07:30 PM
Any help here? I don't know where to look for the deflection codes.
Also, the manuals that came with it don't tell you what the modules are?? I have F1,2,3,4,6,7 and guessing F5 is in the bow..

3LP is the deflection code. The 'P' just stands for 'PowerTuff' limbs.
The Martin charts say that the deflection code for 60#'s on that bow is 3M. (L=light, M=medium, H=heavy)
So - the inspection card says the bow maxed at 60.5# when it left the factory, which would be only 1/2lb over what the bow is supposed to be.
For it to be a 65# bow - it should have like 4L or 4M limbs on it with the factory length strings.
Now if you were to change the cables from the factory 33 7/8" to 33 1/2" - then you would increase the pre load on the limbs and increase the max
draw weight to say 65#.
Is the ata/bh and dl on the factory specs? Or is the ata short?

You should be able to see the module number on at least one of the mods.
The F5 module is usually not used so the mods/dl should be:
f1=26"
f2=27"
f3=28"
f4=29"
f6=30"
f7"31"

NuttyNative
01-17-2012, 07:59 PM
Brace height is at 7 1/4 and ATA is at 32 1/4 right now, no idea on the draw. I have a 30" draw & it feels way short. Based on your info I need F-6 for 30" & it has the light limbs. So my next question is : Will doing this put too much stress on the light limbs? "Now if you were to change the cables from the factory 33 7/8" to 33 1/2" - then you would increase the pre load on the limbs and increase the max draw weight to say 65#".

I know I haven't shot this yet but really don't like the idea of 60 pounds and wanted 65. I chanded the limbs on my Guardian to 50-60, maxed at 62 and was very unhappy with the speed loss from 68.

The F-5 was in the bow so are they different from this? I have 7 mods.
f1=26"
f2=27"
f3=28"
f4=29"
f6=30"
f7"31"

NuttyNative
01-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Now if you were to change the cables from the factory 33 7/8" to 33 1/2" - then you would increase the pre load on the limbs and increase the max
draw weight to say 65#.


It appears that is exactally what was done. Had a dr's appointment today in Reno so took the bow with me to set it up. First thing we did was talk with Joel about the limbs and was assured they are correct and would be fine at 66 pounds. Next we put a loop on it to check the draw weight & it was 66 pounds on the nose. Next we adjusted the brace height and ata to specs. Put it back on the scale and only lost one pound, down to 65 pounds, right where I want it. Put a 1/8 peep in, leveled the Ripcord, changed out the stock cable slide to a Mach 5 teflon slide, put the F-6 mod in, and started shooting.

The bow feels well ballanced, easy to maneuver, VERY FAST, a little louder than expected but I can work on that. After setting the draw stop and tying in the drop away cord I took a few more shots to set the sight.

Here are the results at 20 yards. 1st group
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/2012-01-182015_39_40.jpg
same group, different angle.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/2012-01-182015_42_19.jpg
2nd group
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/2012-01-182016_09_26.jpg

For some reason the draw feels a little harsher than the Ridge Hunter I shot there last summer, could just be me? Anyway, this is the set up now.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/2012-01-182021_53_39-1.jpg
65 pound draw weight
30" draw
Ripcord Code Red
HHA 5519
6" Fuse Axium

First impression is a good one and this is a tack driver at 20 yards. I'm going to try and get the sight tape on it out to 70 yards in the next few days, weather providing.
Side note, when we called Martin to talk to Joel - got the machine twice. Left a message the second time and within 4 minutes we were talking to Joel. Customer service at it's best from the top of the chain. That speaks volumes in my opinion, A+.

Spiker
01-19-2012, 03:34 AM
Good to hear.
Thats a nice bow.!

droppixel
01-19-2012, 06:06 AM
Looks SHARP!!

gravedigger
01-19-2012, 06:23 AM
i dig it for sure.

Arrow Splitter
01-19-2012, 07:49 AM
You certainly got a nice bow NN.:cool:

A.S

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Got to admit I like it. So since I am a lefty you''ll let me borrow it Huh!

Oh btw nice grouping that bow is going to cost you some arrows.





Hutch:cool:

Speedykills
01-19-2012, 01:42 PM
Looks nice all setup,what it do through the chrono!

NuttyNative
01-19-2012, 02:31 PM
Looks nice all setup,what it do through the chrono!

Don't know yet, the shop got busy. I'd say 280-300, I'm very pleased with the speed. Will check it when time allows.

NuttyNative
02-19-2012, 04:18 PM
Went to the range today and had a good time. I've said before, the more I shoot the Firecat the more I like it. I toasted three arrows today from 25-40 yards. My groups seem to tail off from 50-65, maybe I just need more practice there. This was at 45 and I gotta admit I was getting a little tired. So far I have no complaints, still working on getting it a little quieter. I shot some heavier arrows (485gr) a few days ago and it was significantly quieter. I don't know if I'm going to go that route yet, I'd like to stay 425-450. Going to get the limbsaver sts bumper and most likely a string from Hutch and see where it's at then.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/20120219_160147.jpg
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/Nuttynative/20120219_160106.jpg

dzsmith
02-21-2012, 03:22 PM
my exile has a terrible dip job to. i mean real bad, part of the reason is probably because i bought it on a shelf at cabelas, but the actual dip was bad to like some spots were sputtered up looking, and its things as simple as this that keep martin on the back burner, do you ever see a matthews, bowtech, or hoyt bow with blemishes. im sure they are out because nothing is perfect, but the quality and craftsmanship behind the paint on a matthews bow or other more expensive bows are single to none. there perfect. im not knocking martin though, i payed 660 dollars for a fully set up bow, with arrows and a case, release and everything i needed to shoot that day. and it was for a bow that shoots as good as any of the other names listed above

gravedigger
02-21-2012, 03:55 PM
my exile has a terrible dip job to. i mean real bad, part of the reason is probably because i bought it on a shelf at cabelas, but the actual dip was bad to like some spots were sputtered up looking, and its things as simple as this that keep martin on the back burner, do you ever see a matthews, bowtech, or hoyt bow with blemishes. im sure they are out because nothing is perfect, but the quality and craftsmanship behind the paint on a matthews bow or other more expensive bows are single to none. there perfect. im not knocking martin though, i payed 660 dollars for a fully set up bow, with arrows and a case, release and everything i needed to shoot that day. and it was for a bow that shoots as good as any of the other names listed above

wow 660 for a ready to shoot set up.i got my buddy his exile ready to shoot package for 450.i kind of feel bad for even saying that but dang 660.:eek::eek:

dzsmith
02-21-2012, 04:02 PM
i only bought the bow in a package with the copper john sights and mantis rest, i bought the release i wanted, the case i wanted, the arrows i wanted, the field tips and broadheads I wanted, the stabilizer string leeches, and limb silencers that i wanted, the peep I wanted, the arm guard I wanted and a whole buch of more stuff. Not to mention its cabelas. Plus everything I bought that doesnt have a great warranty of its own has a cabelas warranty. So 660 not so bad. Especially at cabelas. Ready to shoot, hunt, whatever i want to do except i didnt have a target.

gravedigger
02-21-2012, 04:05 PM
i only bought the bow in a package with the copper john sights and mantis rest, i bought the release i wanted, the case i wanted, the arrows i wanted, the field tips and broadheads I wanted, the stabilizer string leeches, and limb silencers that i wanted, the peep I wanted, the arm guard I wanted and a whole buch of more stuff. Not to mention its cabelas. Plus everything I bought that doesnt have a great warranty of its own has a cabelas warranty. So 660 not so bad. Especially at cabelas. Ready to shoot, hunt, whatever i want to do except i didnt have a target.

well then that is a heck of a deal.660 for what you wanted for a set up and a bow to boot,good deal indeed

Rangerj
02-21-2012, 05:08 PM
From what I could see in the pics it looks good to me.seems like it groups good also. :D :D