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Ehunter
02-01-2012, 01:33 PM
I'm thinking about dropping down to a 75 grain broadhead due to some changes I have made on my arrows. Anyone know any good reliable heads in that weigh range? Been looking at Slick Trick, Muzzy, and Wasp mainly, but I wanted to know if anyone uses that light of head, and how they like them. Thanks guys!

Eric

madman350
02-02-2012, 04:27 AM
Why/what did you change on your arrows? i presume not all of them bows shooting the same arrows, if not you dont have much to lose for trying some out. Less than 10% of bowhunting experts recommend that weight of a head for big game unless its absolutely necessary to correct your FOC or spine, but i am positive they would work fine. On elk? why take a chance,they had to shave weight somewhere. The slick trick have four blades and come in 85 grains , not 75 so i'd lean that way for the lighter heads. all 3 are proven good quality BH's with more satisfied customers than unsatisfied.. consider blade replacement costs when choosing if you plan on using them for a couple years, the wasp' includes some replacement blades with the purchase of their new bullet or hammer sst and seem somewhat the black sheep of the broadhead world but are as good as anyones, being different / unique makes the bowhunting world a little more interesting.

bfisher
02-02-2012, 04:55 AM
I've used 75gr heads successfully for many years. First it was Wasp SST and then InnerLoc. I really like the design and wuality of the InnerLoc heads. That and the fact that I got them free back in 2003 when I was a rep (one year) for them and a few other companies. Being as they work well I just can't get myself to go spend the outrageous prices for these newer heads that do nothing more than what my InnerLocs do. And now that I've given up hunting it doesn't matter much anyway.

That being said, if I were to choose a different head these days I'd take a serious look at the Slick Trick 85 grainer. I really like how the blades lock into the ferrule. I've had a heads that lost their blades in an animal after hitting bone and abhor the idea of field dressing an animal with a blade somewhere inside.

Ehunter
02-02-2012, 12:08 PM
The reason for changing over is that the inserts my VAP's use keep getting a slight bend to them. I was told not to shoot them at bag targets, so I got a Block, and a Shot Blocker to shoot at. Still bending. I talked to Victory, and they sent me a dozen new inserts made from stainless. Old inserts weighed 43 grains, these are 90 grain. With the 100 grain heads I've been using, that's alot of weight out front, causing a weaker spine. I'd have to switch over to a 300 spine. Figured shaving 25 gr. off the heads might let me keep using the arrows I already have. Gonna get some 75 gr. FP, and give them a try. Right now, the arrows are 383 gr., but with the new inserts, we're talking about 430 gr, with 190 of that in the first 3 inches or so.

MLN1963
02-02-2012, 12:46 PM
Midway has 85 grain 4 blade stingers on clearance for $21.62 if they interest you?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/356844/magnus-stinger-4-blade-fixed-blade-broadhead-85-grain-stainless-steel-pack-of-3

bfisher
02-02-2012, 03:11 PM
The reason for changing over is that the inserts my VAP's use keep getting a slight bend to them. I was told not to shoot them at bag targets, so I got a Block, and a Shot Blocker to shoot at. Still bending. I talked to Victory, and they sent me a dozen new inserts made from stainless. Old inserts weighed 43 grains, these are 90 grain. With the 100 grain heads I've been using, that's alot of weight out front, causing a weaker spine. I'd have to switch over to a 300 spine. Figured shaving 25 gr. off the heads might let me keep using the arrows I already have. Gonna get some 75 gr. FP, and give them a try. Right now, the arrows are 383 gr., but with the new inserts, we're talking about 430 gr, with 190 of that in the first 3 inches or so.

That ought to give you a pretty hefty FOC. Now that I know what you're trying to accomplish I can understand why. FYI Muzzy has a 75gr head also. There are others, but I ain't doing all your research for you.

My rep carries Victory arrows on his account and I was thinking of gettin some, but I'll have to do more research into the problem with the inserts. This isn't the first time I've heard of this. Consider yourself lucky getting the new inserts. From what I understand they are going for $40/doz at Lancaster and other places. I assume these are for the VAPs.

Ehunter
02-03-2012, 02:55 AM
Barry, yes, they are for the VAP's. I'm just hoping it doesn't change my spine so much that I have to go to the 300's. I've got 2 dozen .350's already. From my figuring, if I had to use the .300, I'd end up with an arrow at 438 gr. using a 75 gr. head.

Sharxfan
02-03-2012, 07:41 AM
Eh, I have some Muzzy looking broadheads in 85gr I think just laying around if you want to try them out. Just shoot me a PM with your addy and I will get them out as soon as I can.

Wolverine67
02-03-2012, 05:05 PM
I,m not sure I follow you. Are you shooting a 350 arrow? As I could see your bows are up too 60-70 pounds. A 60 pounds bow should give you a 400 arrow from Victory. A 125gr. BH should be fine. Increase your insertweight with 47gr. and you look at 85 gr. weight. But if you wanna hunt, a 100gr. weight would be fine? Better with a heavy arrow to hunt with than a anorexi arrow!:cool:

justin758
02-06-2012, 01:07 PM
Magnus are great in the 85 grain

Ehunter
02-06-2012, 05:35 PM
Wolverine, I'm shooting these arrows out of my 70# bows only. They are .350 spine arrows. By swapping from a 43 gr. insert to a 90 will definitely weaken the spine. That's why I was asking about a 75 grain head. Currently shooting 100 gr. heads with the 43 gr. inserts. On Victory's chart, that's nearing a weak spine, but still safe. Switching to a 90 gr. insert and a 75 gr. head still is adding another 22 gr. to the front of the arrow, which is enough to weaken the spine. Front end weight weakens a spine, rear end weight strengthens a spine. Picked up some 75 gr. FP's today, so I'll give them a try and see how they work out with the new inserts.

ramsey2007
02-07-2012, 03:30 PM
85 grain MONTEC my girlfriend shoots it at 50lbs lethal

Ehunter
02-08-2012, 03:08 PM
Talked to one of the guys at Victory, and they said I would have to switch over to a .300 spine. Now, I gotta decide if I want to spend the money on new arrows, or just keep buying inserts. lol

bowgramp59
02-13-2012, 06:47 PM
i think mangus are great in any grn.

jnordwell
03-04-2012, 03:22 PM
high country archery makes a 55 gr broadhead.
innerlok makes a 65 gr one as well

Or you could drop draw wt some to make the arrows you have work.

Ehunter
03-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Well, I grabbed some 85 grain Thunderheads, Slick Tricks, and ABC Sonics. Gonna flight test them all, and see what works best. Really like the looks of the Sonics. Hope they fly well.

jnordwell
03-04-2012, 03:54 PM
if they spin str8 they should fly str8..happy shooting

bfisher
03-04-2012, 04:21 PM
Ehunter, if you find those 350's a tad on the weak side with the new inserts and 75gr heads you could always try turning the weight down to about 65#. I hate to keep preaching on this but the bow is infinitely more adjustable than the arrow. What you might give up in speed and trajectory would certainly be compensated by kinetic energy and a better FOC.

Ehunter
03-05-2012, 12:21 AM
Barry, they ended up more than just a tad on the weak side. With what basically turns out as a 175 gr. head, I went ahead and bought some .300 spine arrows. Got the bow retuned with the new arrows, so now it's just a matter of picking from the broadheads I bought.

Eric