PDA

View Full Version : Will it work?



Hutch~n~Son Archery
06-13-2012, 07:28 PM
Will it work?
What do you think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F4VO5OTAq4g#!



Hutch:cool:

TEN RING
06-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Yes it will work If you go back and look at my thread (well) I bent a rod to look like that it works great

ftshooter
06-13-2012, 08:17 PM
I think most of my trouble with cable slides/rod has been clearence problems with blazers vanes as they are Short but,tall I am swicthing to some that are a little longer and shorter ..However, this could sure help take some side pressure off cat/Hibrix cams ...

Rockyhud
06-13-2012, 09:34 PM
You bet it works and works great. This item is functionally the same as my home-made TRG and slide. I simply used a straight 3/8" aluminum rod and bent it in a couple of areas to duplicate the angle of the Martin TRG in the rear portion of the rod for my cable slide to operate in. I also used a Saunders Hyper-Glide slide as it moves on the rod smoother than even a teflon slide. This ArcTec device does have the advantage of being adjustable, which mine isn't, but it also costs quite a lot more than the rod I started with. Mine did require some time and effort to make which also has to be taken into account. I have a photo in the Photos forum but here it is for you to see without switching threads/forums.

6664

ftshooter
06-13-2012, 10:54 PM
That is some nice work on the add ons ...Did you add a aluminum piece to your steel rod? if so, how did you do that..Thanks..

I have been thinking about removing the roller guard on my firecat and adding a rod,,but, there is no hole for one as the roller one is on there with two screws...

Spiker
06-14-2012, 12:02 AM
Martin has a bracket and rod that you can purchase to replace the ccs with.

The CPR set up does work - same as a tilt tamer but a lot cleaner setup.

Matt Brown at Bearfoot Archery also makes 'angled' rods that come with Bomar slides. (same deal as Rockyhud built)
He builds them for quite a few different bows and will custom build one if you can give him the measurements you need.
His standard ones are $28 with the slide.

You can also purchase the 'Super Slide' that Strother uses on their '12 models and just put it on the standard 3/8" rod on most bows.
The only limitation to this is the travel back to front of the bow in question.

ftshooter
06-16-2012, 05:08 AM
Really, Martin has a bracket and rod that you can purchase to replace the ccs with? Has any of you done this switch,,,? Is there any pics of one...? Thanks

Spiker
06-16-2012, 12:19 PM
The kit comes with the bracket-rod-slide-screws and nuts to install.

66786679

Rockyhud
06-16-2012, 01:17 PM
That is some nice work on the add ons ...Did you add a aluminum piece to your steel rod? if so, how did you do that..Thanks..

I have been thinking about removing the roller guard on my firecat and adding a rod,,but, there is no hole for one as the roller one is on there with two screws...

FTS, I'm not quite sure what you mean, unless the different colors (brown/black "camo" and silver) are what you're referring to. The rod is all aluminum - I just painted the forward section with flat brown and black, to make it non-reflective. The end I left unpainted so the slide wouldn't have anything to interfere with it's movement. I also installed a Limbsaver Power Ring Cable Guard Rod Dampener near the first bend toward the riser. The photo of the riser's center section from the side shows the cable rod and slide with less "clutter" in the view.

Spiker's reference to bent rods available from Bearfoot Archery sounds like that maybe a good alternative for those who don't want to experiment and make their own. Has anyone installed the Martin bracket and rod kit to replace the CCS? Nifty idea, but looking at it makes me wonder if it displaces the cable rod (and cables) further away from the riser than what the CCS or does, or for that matter, a bow made to use a "standard" round rod and slide. If so, it seems that would, or could, induce more cam lean and limb twist at rest.

6680

Spiker
06-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Actually when it is mounted on the bow it holds the cables just a bit closer to the centerline, not farther away.
At least on the Alien X and Z. I never tried it on any other models.
Personally I like the ccs so have left the 4 bows I have with them as-is.

Rockyhud
06-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Thanks for clarifying that point. Could help others who are considering replacement of their CCS on bows that have them.

ftshooter
06-16-2012, 06:39 PM
Ok, Rockyhud,,It's just paint LOL...It looked to me like metal that was heated up on bends ..So, I was thinking you added the end piece of aluminum to the rod..

ftshooter
06-16-2012, 06:56 PM
Spiker,,Thanks, for the pics ,,,Really the only reason I would do this were if there was less side pressure on the cams/cam lean ...I have a 2010 Fire cat TR2 with roller guard,Power tuff limbs..Shoots fine like it is...There is very little cam lean...Do you guys think there is a lot of benefits for the change? Thanks..

elkslayer4x5
06-17-2012, 08:34 AM
Anything that will reduce or remove cam lean is a benefit to you. Reduces nock travel, the single reason I shoot X rigged bows, well that and they are very easy to tune. :)

Rockyhud
06-17-2012, 12:54 PM
I'm still getting back into shooting my bow after rotator cuff surgery last Nov, but as I recall from shooting with my "bent rod" setup before then, I did notice some improvement in grouping/accuracy, especially at longer distances. Where these type devices help most is at full draw as they allow the cables to run almost a straight line between the cams during the time when the cables have more tension than does the shooting string. Consequently there's less side-to-side torque on the limb tips and less torque applied to the riser as well. As the string is released there's a transition of less tension on the cables and more on the string as the string comes back to brace position. Besides moving the cables back to clear the path for the fletchings, the angled rod end helps with this transition as well as allowing the cables to move forward and backward as the cams roll over and limbs deflect. As the owner of Tilt-Tamer says on his website, you will need to move your front sight aperture in toward the riser after installing his (or similar) device as a result of the reduced riser torque. This change also affects lateral nock travel some since the cams and limb tips aren't shifting around as much. All in all, a good thing and one that I don't plan on changing or removing from my bow.