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TEN RING
07-29-2012, 04:21 PM
This is a thread to help pass on some of your tips & tricks. With are bow season 6 weeks long, one of the things I see is guy will shoot there bows up to the day the season starts then won't shoot it unless they are going to try and shoot a deer and then try to figure out what want wrong so take some time during the season to shoot your bow, thing get bumped around coming in and out of the woods lifting your bow up & down the tree.

I know everybody as something to share you may do something not nowing that a lot of guy have not tryed it because you have been doing it for so long so post up.

Ehunter
07-29-2012, 06:01 PM
I've got two tips that have proven themselves over and over again for me. The first, do not contaminate your hunting area with scent before season. If you run trail cams, make sure that for the last 3 weeks before season, that you are scent free when you go in to check them. I see alot of guys go out and check cams right before season in their jeans ans work boots, get alot of good pics, then wonder why no deer are there when it's time to hunt. If they are not regularly exposed to human scent, the scent you leave behind checking cams can scare them away from an area, or make them go nocturnal for 2-3 weeks.
Tip number 2. If you have taken or seen a good buck in a particular area or on a particular trail in years past, keep hunting that area unless something drastic has changed the landscape. If you took a good buck out of one stand last year, chances are VERY good that another good buck will be there this year. Big bucks like the same things, so if one is removed from the herd, another will step in to take over his ground. I have shot 4 P&Y bucks from the same trail in the last 4 years. 3 of them from the exact same tree stand. You know what stand I plan to hunt most this year. lol
Last thing I'll say is, be as scent free as you can be. Even if it's just a spray like Dead Down Wind, or Scent Killer. Watch for bargains in Cabelas, Sportsmansguide, Bass Pro, and buy the stuff in gallons, and use it. I personally like Scent Lok suits, and still use the spray on everything. Bottoms of the boots are important too, not just the tops and sides. Using a Scent Lok suit, and spray, I have had a buck as close as 3 inches. Yep, inches. And he was downwind. Not a big buck, but any deer at that distance tells me something's working. I know someone is going to call BS on this, but it happened. Just never got a chance to get a pic of it.

Chip
07-30-2012, 05:37 AM
Good call ehunter, I use sent away got it on sale paid 19 bucks for soap, detergent, dryer sheets, deodorant, and storage bag. To expand, while care will take care of some sent it will only reduce it. Do your scouting homework and try to set up with a wind advantage. As for a tip, I use a British activated charcoal chem suit, paid 30 bucks for never issued and vacuumed sealed. I resealed it after sent away washing with my vacuum sealer.

elkslayer4x5
07-30-2012, 10:21 AM
This is a thread to help pass on some of your tips & tricks. With are bow season 6 weeks long, one of the things I see is guy will shoot there bows up to the day the season starts then won't shoot it unless they are going to try and shoot a deer and then try to figure out what want wrong so take some time during the season to shoot your bow, thing get bumped around coming in and out of the woods lifting your bow up & down the tree.

I know everybody as something to share you may do something not nowing that a lot of guy have not tryed it because you have been doing it for so long so post up.

I like to take a shot as I leave camp, to help loosen up and to make sure I'm still on. When at home , still take a shot in the backyard before leaving to hunt.

typically8
07-31-2012, 01:13 AM
Don't pee where you hunt. Take a pee bottle.

TEN RING
07-31-2012, 09:55 AM
Don't pee where you hunt. Take a pee bottle.

I do but I will put some doe pee over it and had buck come in to smell it and not be alarmed

aldenjj
07-31-2012, 10:02 AM
I don't know if any of you are familiar with "Deer Dander"....if not you should give it a try. I have always been very careful with my smell and my equipments odor.
I have over the years tried many products. I always wash my hunting clothes in unscented soap, designed to destroy scent, I keep them in a scent free bag. I even have my towel for showering in the bag. I also shower with scent destroyer soap, use the scent free deodorant, and even brush my teeth with scent eliminator toothpaste........having said all of that, once I started using "Deer Dander" I started seeing more deer, and closer than before. I still use attractants...like acorn, apple, doe-in-heat, but when you spray yourself with "Deer Dander" somehow you smell like a deer, to the deer.
Don't ask me how it works, because if you smell it, it doesn't smell like deer....but to the deer it does!
I can guarantee you that it works!!!! It isn't something that you can buy at most box stores though. You have to goggle it to find the best price. The last few years that I have bought some, it came from the manufacturer......Fitzgerald Brothers.
If any of you are thinking that I am full of it! I will be happy to post pictures of the last 2 bucks that I killed while using it.
If you google it you will see ENDLESS!!! testimonials....it really works well, and no I am not a spoksman for the company.
What I like best of all is, that you can be upwind of a deer, regardless of the sex or size..if they smell it they will stop!

Thermodude
07-31-2012, 03:40 PM
I do but I will put some doe pee over it and had buck come in to smell it and not be alarmed

When I first started bow hunting years ago I too was told to never pee in my hunting area so I took a container into the woods with me and then packed it out. As the years went buy I got more involved in the sport and ended up as a pro staff member of a game call company. I spent alot of time at trade shows doing seminars on bow hunting and listening to others speak on the same subject. I spoke with a number of biologists about this and was told that it made no difference whatsoever. Mammals are mammals, deer know something urinated in a given spot but cant tell what it was. The exception is when the human has ingested something out of the ordinary that alters their urine.................strong garlic for instance. Ever since I was told that I stopped worring about it and to be honest Ive had no problems at all.

TEN RING
07-31-2012, 06:02 PM
When I first started bow hunting years ago I too was told to never pee in my hunting area so I took a container into the woods with me and then packed it out. As the years went buy I got more involved in the sport and ended up as a pro staff member of a game call company. I spent alot of time at trade shows doing seminars on bow hunting and listening to others speak on the same subject. I spoke with a number of biologists about this and was told that it made no difference whatsoever. Mammals are mammals, deer know something urinated in a given spot but cant tell what it was. The exception is when the human has ingested something out of the ordinary that alters their urine.................strong garlic for instance. Ever since I was told that I stopped worring about it and to be honest Ive had no problems at all.

I do know one thing you will spook them if they watch you I was in mid stream last year want a couple of doe walk in :o

typically8
08-01-2012, 12:57 AM
@ thermodude, my theory is that I dont eat or drink the same things as the forest critters so I don't want to leave any of my omnivore waste behind. Better safe the sorry. Also, i dink alot of water on the stand. Gotta keep hydrated, its still 100 in Tx well into november.
My next tip, practice shooting sitting down and twisting around as well as from tree stand.

Bent Arrow
08-01-2012, 05:05 PM
Atsko products. They make really good detergent and UV killer. Leaves no scent and really cleans your clothes. I also like Evercalm. It's more economical than sprays and lasts longer it seems. And last but not least, after you sharpen your broadheads......leave them alone. I know it sounds silly but they won't get any sharper the fifth time you sharpen them, once is enough.:rolleyes:

TEN RING
08-01-2012, 06:28 PM
A couple 3-5 years ago I read where a guy would grut or doe bleat every 5 minutes if he didn't see anything I thought that was a little to close together , One week as i was hunt and not seeing a lot of buck I firgured I would try it and it worked but I only do it close to the rut, remembering back a couple of times I watched bucks going though the wood they where none stop grunting teal they were out of sight.

Money Man
08-08-2012, 12:07 PM
Take a couple shots with your broadheads! Fixed or mechanical, you need to be sure of where they are hitting. I have a friend who hunts with mechanicals because the guy at the shop said they fly like field points. He doesn't shoot with them to be sure of the claim, and I have helped him tracked a couple of deer that were hit farther back then where he was aiming. I know broad heads are expensive, but I would rather invest 1 head to shoot and make sure of where it is going than injure an animal for no reason.

mdodraw29
08-08-2012, 02:57 PM
I put a box of baking soda in my truck during the season to absorb any extra odors (just like in the fridge).

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-08-2012, 03:18 PM
Putting the tree stands up a month or 2 before so they will blend in after some time. Then mark you yardages so you know the distances you are shooting.





Hutch:cool:

Ehunter
08-08-2012, 07:13 PM
One thing I'll add to Hutch's post. If you can do it on the ground you hunt, mark your distances on trees a couple months before season with a spot of spray paint in the color that matches that yardage pin. Green dot for a 20 yard green pin, red dot for a 30 yard red pin, etc. Saves alot of counting and looking when one pops out in a shooting lane quickly. If you hunt public or private land and can't leave the spray paint spots, another good thing it to go buy vinyl ribbon or tape in the colors of your pins. Set them at the appropriate distances on wire (coat hanger) sticks. I do that alot when I hunt field edges. The deer get used to them in a couple of weeks. Just make them short enough they won't get cut with the crops.

typically8
08-09-2012, 11:09 PM
Ehunter, thats a gold star idea. I usually just stack a couple of rocks on each other. Now, I am going to get some tape. On a similar note, I have usesd survey tape to mark yardages in 100s when rifle hunting on senderos in South Texas.

Ehunter
08-10-2012, 04:20 AM
I'm not just a pretty face ya know.....lol

foxman333
08-18-2012, 11:01 PM
Some of the things that I have done:

- Practice shooting lots at farther distances than you normally hunt at. Like for example 65 yards is my farthest pin. That doesn't mean I'd be willing to attempt a kill shot at that distance, but if I can consistently hit at that range then 20 yards is a piece of cake.
- Practice shooting from a similar elevation as where you hunt. I went ahead and built a raised platform out of an old rifle stand that I practice from. Shooting angles can effect where the arrows hit, so I like to know exactly where my arrow is gonna hit, all the time.
- Mark out yardage at your stand. I use thin "stickers" of wood, with the top ends spray painted a color that I can easily see them. These I set up (along with my tree stand) about a month ahead of the season opener.
- As far as sent control, I believe that no amount of scent control is going to ever full out beat the nose of a deer. Deer are animals that rely on their nose to stay alive. I like to think that if a dog can smell drugs in someones gas tank, then a deer can smell you no matter what your wearing or spray on you (yes, i know, deer are not dogs, they have different noses). I believe that what alarms deer, is the amount that they smell you. They are always going to smell you to SOME extent. I do a couple of things to combat this. First, starting with me, I make sure I am freshly clean, and minimize the amount of odor that I am giving off. Then I worry about my clothes. I wash them with just water, thoroughly, then I let them air-dry outdoors. Once dry, I store them in a clean duffel bag with pine bows inside of it. The morning of the hunt, I spray down with scent killer (although I am not fully convinced that they work, but they cant hurt, hopefully). Now here comes my "secret": I buy a little jar of cedar oil. I get it at the local feed-mill. I cut it with mineral oil to stretch it out significantly. This, I put in a dropper bottle, and apply it to all my hot spots (head, armpits, hands, anywhere that i feel gives off heat), and all over my gear. The area that I hunt, cedar is a VERY familiar smell, so its a safe smell, as long as a STRONG smell... This is what I do, and so far it has worked for me!
- I like to target practice from my stand (I try to do this about 2 months prior to season). This part that I consider a luxury. I know not everyone is able to do this, but if you can, than certainly do it. It reinforces your shooting confidence in the stand.

Bent Arrow
08-19-2012, 11:48 AM
I agree with you on the scent. I like to set up around Wax Myrtle bushes. They give off a strong scent and in the warmer months it is at it's strongest. Break off a few boughs and put them in a bag with your hunting clothes for a cover scent. I've always been told that ticks don't like the odor of it but I can't give a verdict on that one way or the other. Maybe just an old wives tale.

elkslayer4x5
08-20-2012, 08:52 AM
I agree with you on the scent. I like to set up around Wax Myrtle bushes. They give off a strong scent and in the warmer months it is at it's strongest. Break off a few boughs and put them in a bag with your hunting clothes for a cover scent. I've always been told that ticks don't like the odor of it but I can't give a verdict on that one way or the other. Maybe just an old wives tale.

Well, are you getting any ticks while you're set up next to the Wax Mytle? Funny thing about those old wives tales, a lot of them are right on. :)

Bent Arrow
08-20-2012, 03:50 PM
Can't say. Did I get them on the bush? Did I get them on the way to the bush? Maybe it's wood ticks and not deer ticks... Whew! I think I'm getting a headache. But I know what you mean, I do have an old wife and if you ever tell her I said that.........:D

JOG78
08-21-2012, 08:05 PM
As for scents i dont really use any at all except for some scent away stuff that ill spray down with before going into the woods. When i wash my hunting clothes they get washed with all the other clothes with whatever detergent the the wife washes with. My buddy goes by the book when it comes to scent stuff. He washes all his hunting clothes in scent away stuff he takes a shower in it and all that jazz. Now since we have been hunting together on public land the past 3-4 years i see atleast 4-5 deer every other sit and kill 5-7 deer a year and 15-20 hogs, now my buddy on the other hand has only killed 1 hog. We sit about 100yrd apart and i know that when the deer pass me they are headed his way but never make it to him. Im not sure what he is doing wrong but i dont want whatever it is that he has or is using.

As for a tip its always something that i have wanted to try but dont have access to private land to try it on. At the end of hunting season put a mannequin in camo in the tree stand and every so often go and move him around in the off season. then come opening day shove him to the ground and take his place. My thinking on this would be that the deer would get real use to seeing someone or something in the tree and would get use to it and then they would think nothing of it. Then the day that you are there and they come slipping by they will never notice anything different. just my .02 cents on this.

Ehunter
08-21-2012, 08:35 PM
I have heard of people putting old socks, etc. on the ground by their stand in the off season to get the deer used to their scent. Then the deer don't think twice when it's an actual person giving off the scent during season.

elkslayer4x5
08-22-2012, 08:24 AM
I have heard of people putting old socks, etc. on the ground by their stand in the off season to get the deer used to their scent. Then the deer don't think twice when it's an actual person giving off the scent during season.
Kinda like the deer seeing the farmer working his fields every day, nothin to worry about, he's there every day. Sure worked for my Granddad, took a buck 11 years in a row on opening day, while feeding the cattle. Just carried his ole long octogon barreled model 1894 Winchester .30-30 in the truck during deer season. :D

TEN RING
08-24-2012, 10:10 AM
Don't over bow your self what I mean is your shooting your 70 lb bow now it's warm but when your in a tree for hours and it cold you will have problems pulling it back when that buck shows up drop your poundage down a couple pounds right before the season

TEN RING
09-01-2012, 05:07 PM
this month I will start doing some low light shooting the last half hour of daylight when a lot shots have taken place

Bent Arrow
09-01-2012, 06:29 PM
Here's one, if you're hunting an area that's been burnt recently then hang your clothes up near a smokey fire of the same kind of vegetation that burned. Watch out for poison ivy though.

TEN RING
09-01-2012, 08:54 PM
Here's one, if you're hunting an area that's been burnt recently then hang your clothes up near a smokey fire of the same kind of vegetation that burned. Watch out for poison ivy though.

A lot of guy are now using a smoker to smoke there closes I have a wood burner so I already get smoked

Hutch~n~Son Archery
09-01-2012, 09:31 PM
A lot of guy are now using a smoker to smoke there closes I have a wood burner so I already get smoked

Yep TEN RING, you've been smoked for a long time!!!!!!!http://www.huntbuds.com/file/pic/emoticon/huntbuds-emoticons-1/3.gif






Hutch:cool:

TEN RING
09-02-2012, 07:38 AM
like this http://www.scentsmoker.com/

Bent Arrow
09-02-2012, 08:24 AM
"I'm a smoker, I'm a joker, I'm a midnight toker...." Let me stop before I date myself even farther. That's a good looking unit. I'm going to use my beehive smoker for that operation now. Thanks.

bob cooly
09-14-2012, 12:54 PM
I tie a piece of pink or orange thread about 2' long near me. Beats moving around with any wind checker in a bottle and esp. if your in a ground blind. or just tie it to your bow off the stablizer.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
09-14-2012, 02:09 PM
I tie a piece of pink or orange thread about 2' long near me. Beats moving around with any wind checker in a bottle and esp. if your in a ground blind. or just tie it to your bow off the stablizer.

very good Idea!





Hutch:cool:

TEN RING
09-14-2012, 03:25 PM
I tie a piece of pink or orange thread about 2' long near me. Beats moving around with any wind checker in a bottle and esp. if your in a ground blind. or just tie it to your bow off the stablizer.

Been tieing white thread to my stabilzer for a long time, great tip