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Double S
09-12-2012, 08:58 PM
I'm in the middle of redoing some fletching and I'm thinking about trying 4 vanes. Has anybody here tried 4 vanes on a TT spring rest?

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/4fletch4inchvanes1.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/4fletch4inchvanes3.jpg

elkslayer4x5
09-13-2012, 08:10 AM
I've shot 4 fletch, from a recurve. Creates a lot of drag, unless you make 'em real small, try to keep the same amount of feather or vane. By that I mean that if you 3 fletch vanes total 6 sq in, make your 4 vanes equal 6 sq inches. Good luck. :)

Double S
09-13-2012, 02:26 PM
I took some shots today just for giggles and see how they reacted. I was very surprised on how fast the 4 vanes recovered from the archers paradox. I shot at 20 yards, destroyed some vanes on one 4 vane arrow. 30 yards and then at 50 yards.

20 yards,
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/20yards.jpg

30 yards. you can see one of the feathered arrows hit odd. I think i pulled dwon to check the shot and didn't follow through properly.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/30yards.jpg

50 yards. this is when i started shaking. i decided to come on in and take a break.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/50yards.jpg

ElkSlayer
09-13-2012, 03:57 PM
more surface area, catches more air... how much drop did you experance if any ?
looked like the grouped well..

Double S
09-13-2012, 05:35 PM
I readjusted about an inch or so to get the 4 vaned arrows back in circle at 50 yards. Zero at 20 yards. Not till I was moving back did I notice the drop.

daiwateampenn
09-15-2012, 03:23 AM
does it give u the "fshm" sound? I did tried once wif 4 fletch, but i get sound on every shot. Maybe my skill for fletching is limited.

elkslayer4x5
09-15-2012, 07:31 AM
does it give u the "fshm" sound? I did tried once wif 4 fletch, but i get sound on every shot. Maybe my skill for fletching is limited.

Naw, thats one of the results of the increased surface area of the additional vane, more wind drag, faster stabilazition, and more noise. As an experiment I once made a 6 fletch with 6 5" shield cut feathers, and as expected, it would only fly about 50 yds ( unless you aimed it sky high ) and then come to a stop. Very noisy.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
09-15-2012, 08:10 AM
DS, wouldn't 3 vanes with a heavier helical work better? and give your the best of both worlds.





Hutch:cool:

droppixel
09-15-2012, 08:22 AM
DS, wouldn't 3 vanes with a heavier helical work better? and give your the best of both worlds.

Hutch:cool:

What I do with mine. I run my blazers through a arizona ez-mini - puts a wicked curl on em. Fly great out to 50. Only shot 60 a handful of times because of my limited places to get that distance.

Double S
09-15-2012, 06:32 PM
I don't have the Helical clamp. I'm just using the dial a fletch with an offset. I have it far as i can go and still be able to glue the bases properly. I liked the four 4 inch AAE vanes that I switched most of my target arrows over to 4 vane. I did try three arrows with 3 inch fusion vanes and they didn't fly as good, plus it had a flutter sound. I'm already getting ready to strip the fusions off. You guys can tell....I'm really bored!.

I took a test shot this morning before i went off shooting rifles earlier with my son and neighbors.

Here's the ones I fletched last night. Some of the fusion already came off from arrows rubbing. Not as durable. So I'm gonna remove the fusions.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/4fletchAAevanesandfusions2.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/4fletchAAevanesandfusions4.jpg

Double S
09-15-2012, 06:40 PM
Test group shooting at 20 yards.

Four 4 inch AAE vanes at 20 yards.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/fourvanefirsttest203.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/fourvanefirsttest201.jpg

Four 3 inch fusions. Some tore off already.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/four3inchfusion.jpg

elkslayer4x5
09-16-2012, 07:31 AM
Test group shooting at 20 yards.

Four 4 inch AAE vanes at 20 yards.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/fourvanefirsttest203.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/fourvanefirsttest201.jpg

Four 3 inch fusions. Some tore off already.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll52/Northwest75/Starrlfight%20Fobs/Arrow%20Fletching/four3inchfusion.jpg

Lol, too much plastic for an arrow to get through!

Double S
09-16-2012, 02:26 PM
I try not to group shoot too but it was too tempting while trying out 4 vanes. ;) I gave into temptation.


Lol, too much plastic for an arrow to get through!

daiwateampenn
09-17-2012, 05:08 AM
Naw, thats one of the results of the increased surface area of the additional vane, more wind drag, faster stabilazition, and more noise. As an experiment I once made a 6 fletch with 6 5" shield cut feathers, and as expected, it would only fly about 50 yds ( unless you aimed it sky high ) and then come to a stop. Very noisy.

So, im nt alone wif the noise. Cheers


DS, wouldn't 3 vanes with a heavier helical work better? and give your the best of both worlds.


Hutch:cool:

Sometimes the hand n backside just itchy. Grab arrows, striper n start fletching to kill weekend time. Hahaha

ElkSlayer
09-17-2012, 10:20 AM
So with all this testing... do they work? sure look like they do...lol
hows the flight noise. or are you just target shooting with um

Double S
09-17-2012, 08:45 PM
So with all this testing... do they work? sure look like they do...lol
hows the flight noise. or are you just target shooting with um

I'm enjoying the four 4inch AAE vanes. They weren't noisy for me. I didn't like the fusion vane setup. I'm gonna check IBO regs on vanes. I forgot to check if there's a vane rule.

ElkSlayer
09-18-2012, 09:29 AM
Ah checking regs ,must be gearin up for a shoot.. dont see where it will matter how many you put on 6 if you like thou i could be wrong let me know what you find out

elkslayer4x5
09-18-2012, 09:31 AM
Common sense tells me that there should'nt be any regulation against 4 fletch, but then what does common sense have to do with rules and regulations. :D

bfisher
09-18-2012, 09:57 AM
Don't know how they'd work with the 90 degree spacing. I have a Bitz jig and if I were going to go with 4 fletch I'd do 75x105 spacing and use a low profile vane. But being a feather guy I won't put that much weight on the tail end of an arrow. I'd use feathers. Now that you have them fletched try checking the FOC.