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aldenjj
10-03-2012, 08:25 AM
Anyone reading this may remember that I did a broadhead test on the 100 Grain Swhacker, a few months ago. At the time I was fairly impressed with the perpetration, and performance........well that has all changed!!.

I went hunting with them....but I didn't check every broadhead to make sure they were sharp. The one I did the test on months ago was sharp....so like an idiot, I figured they all were ,...... WRONG!!!

Someone posted that they had bought some and they were dull. I checked 2 of the 6 and they were sharp...the rest were dull as hell!!

As you can guess the one that I shot a decent 8 point with was dull . I was fortunate enough to find the deer, but only because of my determination. The shot was a little far back(liver), but if the broadhead had gone all of the way through, I would have easily recovered the deer.
The broadhead only went it about 10". The tip broke off, and all that it hit was a couple of ribs, on the way in. The broadhead stuck in the liver.
Very little blood to track... for about 300 yds.

I should have checked each and every broadhead......or maybe I should have listened to Thermodudes' advise. I was lucky this time....but the end result, even though it surprised me was that.......SWHACKERS SUCK!!!!!

dzsmith
10-03-2012, 09:26 AM
shoot fixed blades man, magnus, buy you a sharpener and keep them sharp, the serrated edge of the magnus buzz cut cuts like a knife, and they have a lifetime warranty

aldenjj
10-03-2012, 12:32 PM
I am not convinced that expandables all suck, just the Swhacker! I used an inexpensive expandable last year. Carbon Express to be exact.
It worked really well......though the fixed blade Carbon express I tried, didn't.
That being said. I looked at the Magnus and also the Phats...they both look good and worth consideration.....thanks for the input!!

droppixel
10-03-2012, 12:39 PM
G5 T3 ... only thing in my quiver for the time being.

Footballfreak13
10-03-2012, 03:27 PM
I've shot 6 deer with the 100 gr. Swhacker. 5 complete pass throughs and 1 was sticking out both sides. Averaged no more than 50-60 yards of tracking, besides one that I ponched and recovered the next day. I've seen good and bad reviews but have personally had all devasting wound channels.

elkslayer4x5
10-04-2012, 08:27 AM
Have never had any problem with the 3 blade Muzzys , including getting it tuned to my bow, like had been said 100's of time, if its not broken, why fix it? Just sayin.

Tosi
10-04-2012, 08:55 AM
Aldenjj, in past years I used various braodhead' to include the Swh7194acker and yes, I was not impressed. I remember your post and took some of your comments to the ranger with some broadheads. Saying that I can't tell ya that I been using Slick Trick the past few years with great success. I've harvested several deer and two elk with the Slick Trick Mag 100g and Razor Trick 100g. I shot a nice 3X3 mule deer with a Razor trick with a 2012 Pantera at 80 yards, the broadhead was spot on. The deer only went 15 yards as it was hit oblique and past though the liver, bottom of the lungs and the exit whole was very large. The 6X6 Elk this year that I shot at 65 yards with a Fire Cat 400 and a Slick Trick Mag 100g, the head blew though the should and hit the heart. One of the fins on the blade did bend when it hit the shoulder but still penetrated. Not trying to sell ya on Slick Trick but they fly like field tips. I've had to do no tuning on broadheads since I started using Slick Trick products.

aldenjj
10-04-2012, 09:04 AM
thanks for the comments , and suggestions. I am not sure what I will use from here. I have had good luck with both fixed and expandable blades....just not the Swhacker. I am not saying that a sharp Swhacker will not work ...but being dull brand new is just unacceptable!!!!
At this point I have a short list of possibles Magnus Buzzcuts, Phats,and Slicktrick.

Tosi
10-04-2012, 09:33 AM
thanks for the comments , and suggestions. I am not sure what I will use from here. I have had good luck with both fixed and expandable blades....just not the Swhacker. I am not saying that a sharp Swhacker will not work ...but being dull brand new is just unacceptable!!!!
At this point I have a short list of possibles Magnus Buzzcuts, Phats,and Slicktrick.

Good choice to look at. The phats heads were good when I tested them; maybe better than the Slick Trick on penetration, I just didn't want to play with tuning "So I will stick with Slick Trick with my set up". If some folks are reading this it may be misleading. I will say that arrow selection and weight is a big part of blade penetration. I've had better penetration with and arrow that weight's around 430g and the Easton Axis End-Fussed using a Bar5 ring. Good Luck and let me know how your turn out with the blades

aldenjj
10-04-2012, 01:06 PM
Tosi: Thanks for the advise. I was thinking about arrow weight. My set up with broadhead is 375 grains....so I don't know if fixed, or expandable are best. I am shooting:

2011 Exile
60 lb. Draw
29.25 draw length
285 fps
375 grain arrow{with Broadhead).....anyone have ideas about type of broadhead for that set up, by all means let me know!!!

Footballfreak13
10-04-2012, 04:25 PM
I believe expandables recommend higher kinetic energy numbers than fixed blade broadheads. Quick math shows yours around 63 ft/lbs. Swhacker recommends atleast 60 ft/lbs. My set-up is around 85 ft/lbs, perhaps is why I've had good success with them? I recently switched to the swhacker, but would highly recommend the Muzzy and Slick tricks. Both fly well and hit hard, I've put plenty of Muzzy's through the shoulder/varies bones with great success.

bob cooly
10-04-2012, 08:20 PM
Tosi's right on, I'm shooting a 420grain Axis with a 4 blade Buzzcut. Fixed blade with Lifetime Replacement is a no brainer. If I could just find that tree I left one in last year I'd dig it out and get a new one for nothing but my end of the postage.

bfisher
10-05-2012, 05:23 AM
I don't look for anything magical about a broadhead. They've been around for thousands of years and the basic concept is still the same. I have used things like The old Bear Razorheads andSavoras back in the 70's, Satellite, Thunderheads, Razorback5, Anderson 245 mags, Wasp and others. All with varying success.
I liked the Wasp Hammerheads as they were very sharp, but after losing blades in an animal a couple of times I got to thinking about blade retention as a major criteria.
As long as you're possibly searching for a new broadhead try this one. InnerLoc by Sullivan Industries. I found these one year when I filled in as a rep and they were on the account. These are like a Muzzy in that the ferrule screws onto the arrow, the blades slide in from the front, and a steel tip then screws in to hold the blades in place. The blades are shaped like angle iron so they almost have to break to come out of the ferrule. Like I said, similar to a Muzzy except better quality head all round. They are obviously a replaceable blade head.

Here's how I install and use them. In general when I get a pack of broadheads I also buy several packs of replacement blades. The blades with the heads are used for tuning and practice which will dull them. For actual hunting I just put new blades in and keep the old ones for future tuning and practice. I only ever make up 3 arrows for hunting, all my quiver holds. I install the ferrules with 24 hour epoxy which allows me to spin the ferrules if necessary to align them with the shaft. The ferrules then never come off those shafts so the alignment is never compromised. Remember, ferrules have threads and threads have to have some movement so removing them from the shaft and reinstalling them does not guarantee that they will line up perfectly when reinstalled. By leaving them on the shaft alignment can't change. By using 24 hour epoxy I can also align all the blades the same for consistency. I then set them aside for that 24 hour period and then fletch the arrows, which just happens to line up the blades with the fletching. It's not necessary to do so but it just works out that way; one blade up and the other two angled at 4 and 8 o'clock respectively.

These arrows are now my hunting arrows and I practice with them a little each year just to ensure they will all fly together on the particular setup (bow) I am using. Although I don't hunt anymore I still use them when tuning a bow. These heads have been on the same three arrows for at least 8 years now and I've never loosened the ferrules. They stay in perfect alignment.

The only other heads that I am aware of that use similar technology are Muzzy and Slick Tricks. I know there are a lot of good reviews about Slick Trick and how they fly like field points. However, no broadhead will fly like field points unless the bow is tuned accordingly so in many cases I believe a lot of people either know how to tune properly or are just getting lucky.

I can't use mechanicals due to physical limitations on my part. The last three deer I shot were done so with setups producing less than 40 lbs/ft of KE with complete pass throughs on two of them, like a hot knife through butter. One was a hard quartering away shot that entered behind the ribcage, penetrated to the offside shoulder and broke that shoulder,and the arrow bounced back till half of it was sticking out the entrance hole (made me wonder what happened). End result was still a dead deer that ran about 90 yards.

Anyway, this is just a suggestion for those on a quest to find a good broadhead. There is nothing magical about any broadhead. They all are designed to do the same thing. Just remember, blades that are dull or break off or bend somewhere at impact are not going to get the job done very well. Choose thm wisely and try to keep a simple concept simple.

Barry