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WestMichiganBowhunter
10-09-2012, 01:27 PM
when did martin produce these exiles
they have the green accutrak cam and idler and green andonized roto cup...
were they the early 2011 production run or late....?

& the dampners on the riser are the new looking ones like on the 2012 bengal, not the old one found on the 2009 or 2010 risers....

Just trying to date a exile.....

thanks everyone

droppixel
10-09-2012, 02:15 PM
I'm not trying to knock you on this, but why not keep all of these questions in 1 thread. You have 5 open threads about the same bow and not to mention all the duplicates you have on AT. The Acu-trak cam ran all the way through 2011 models. I've seen the green cams and wheels on the bows that were branded for Dicks. Not sure if they did that on the standard badged ones. If you see the bullet style VEMs - chances are it is a late 2011.

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-09-2012, 03:11 PM
yes it's the bullet style......

droppixel
10-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Do you have it in hand? If so, what are the first 2 digits of the bow number. Generally speaking, those first 2 digits is the year the bow was built.

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-09-2012, 03:41 PM
it's 2011....it's a rack attack.....from dicks......
i thought the green anodized on the cam and such was the telling factor.
The rack attack is the exile....got it now.

droppixel
10-09-2012, 03:47 PM
Yes, same bow, just different name for the box stores.

Lung Buster
10-09-2012, 06:50 PM
Does the bow have the TRG or rod and slide?

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-09-2012, 07:02 PM
Does the bow have the TRG or rod and slide?Yes it does and its a 2011

dzsmith
10-10-2012, 07:15 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

elkslayer4x5
10-10-2012, 07:45 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

It sounds to me like you hit the shoulder bone, with that shallow penetration out of a 70# compound. What broadhead were you using?

joelc
10-10-2012, 08:12 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

The Exile is perfectly capable of taking a deer or any other large North American game.

bfisher
10-10-2012, 09:20 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

Don't knock the bow for wounding a deer. Bows don't kill animals. Broadheads on the end of the arrow do that. All a bow does is launch an arrow at a given velocity. Any bow of about 40# and up, shooting a properly spined arrow is capable of launching an arrow with enough oomph to kill deer. It doesn't matter whether the arrow is doing 200 fps or 300+ fps. There are many factors that can lead to wounding of an animal. Poor shot angle, poor arrow flight, dull broadheads, hitting bone, and a long list of others, but I assure you the bow is not on the list unless you might have had some catastrophic failure at the moment of release.

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-10-2012, 09:21 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't


The Exile is perfectly capable of taking a deer or any other large North American game.


Dz.....you must've hit shoulder....
everyone knows on here that the exile isn't a speed demon but it's not the worst either....lol
it should blow threw any whitetail given that it doesn't hit a massive amount of bone like the shoulder. I have to suspect that a few other models or other manufacturers would've done the same thing. How many grains you shooting...?

i think joel is right........& i'm sure he has seen many if not all the bows get tested and the legitamacy of it all...(i hope so...lol) just a joke there.
DZ...i do appreciate your feedback. Did you recover the deer...?

droppixel
10-10-2012, 10:04 AM
The Exile is perfectly capable of taking a deer or any other large North American game.

Not a slam at you DZ ... but you can't blame a bow for what could be a misplaced shot.

madman350
10-10-2012, 11:00 AM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

sorry to hear your expectations werent met with that experience , ( i guess u didnt did find her to confirm the 8 " or shoulder bone hit ? ) but you reckon that doe was that much tougher than that gator's head someone blew thru way back when, lol? my guess is no. something else must've contributed to the less than satisfactory results.
p.s theres a recent post on AT that describes a shot deer that just had a similar experience as you, .......only he's shootin a MR6.... uh how much can you go up from there ?

WildWilt15
10-10-2012, 11:24 AM
Even with 8 inches of penetration that doe should be dead if the shot was placed in the vitals ive seen kids kill deer with 35 pound bows so its not the bow, the broadhead or the arrow its placement and kinetic energy that exile has plenty of kinetic energy even at 40 pounds to kill a deer at 25 yards

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-10-2012, 11:25 AM
sorry to hear your expectations werent met with that experience , ( i guess u didnt did find her to confirm the 8 " or shoulder bone hit ? ) but you reckon that doe was that much tougher than that gator's head someone blew thru way back when, lol? my guess is no. something else must've contributed to the less than satisfactory results.
p.s theres a recent post on AT that describes a shot deer that just had a similar experience as you, .......only he's shootin a MR6.... uh how much can you go up from there ?

good point...

MR6 is going to be certainly faster with more KE...

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-10-2012, 01:49 PM
in fear of starting another thread......
i will ask my question........

can you put a fury cam on a 2011 exile without any problems......
i would have to think you will need different length strings and cables.

anyone retrofit yet...?

droppixel
10-10-2012, 02:32 PM
in fear of starting another thread......
i will ask my question........

can you put a fury cam on a 2011 exile without any problems......
i would have to think you will need different length strings and cables.

anyone retrofit yet...?

We've talked about this a little. It's not very practical to do so because of the cost of the cams. You would most likely need different strings and cables because of the nature of the cam difference. Pretty much figured there isn't much of a reason to do it.

WestMichiganBowhunter
10-10-2012, 03:28 PM
We've talked about this a little. It's not very practical to do so because of the cost of the cams. You would most likely need different strings and cables because of the nature of the cam difference. Pretty much figured there isn't much of a reason to do it.

likely it's not going to increase speed or much in the way of smoothness.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-10-2012, 03:50 PM
If you want to get more speed out of a bow you need to advance tune it. I have done several of them including mine. It involves changing the strings, cutting down on the servings. Adjusting the bow to all the correct specs. Then add speed nocks. Teak the timing, single cam or hybrid. I just did a bow that was pushing 278fps to 280 ish. When we were done and it did take some time it was doing 291fps. Every bow will give you its best if it is set up for its best.









Hutch:cool:

droppixel
10-10-2012, 04:19 PM
Basically get what you give ... put the time into setting it up right and you'll be rewarded with performance. Something I have planned for my Bengal in the off-season a new set of strings that are optimized for performance with as little serving as necessary to keep them safe.

SJunior
10-10-2012, 04:23 PM
Be careful, I've already wounded a doe this year with my exile , you better make a perfect( not good) shot it better be broadside . I wouldn't shoot over 30 with it either , I was highly disappointed, I shoot voctory Vap arrows and Magnus broahheads . At 24 yards I got only like 8inches deep. My bow is cranked to 70. Maybe I hit shoulder, but at that close with those Vap arrows it should blow through and it didn't

Really??????

dzsmith
10-11-2012, 06:39 AM
It sounds to me like you hit the shoulder bone, with that shallow penetration out of a 70# compound. What broadhead were you using?

Magnus stinger killer be buzzcut, that's what I was thinking to man, she was quartering away to much and I didn't hit far back enough. I looked again yesterday tracked blood bout 125 yards couldn't find any after that not my dog

aldenjj
10-11-2012, 07:06 AM
I have a 2011 Exile, with the standard cable slide. I did a broadhead test, earlier this year..using 100 grain Swhackers. the bow is:
60# draw
victory 400 arrows
285fps
67lb kinetic energy
The broadhead blew through a metal garbage can, that had 2 one gallon milk jugs. One filled with sheet rock mud, one with red colored water....the arrow sunk into a 3/4" piece of plywood...almost went straight through.
those bows have plenty of power........just make sure that you broadheads are SHARP!!!!!
I say that because a shot an 8 pointer a few weeks back, with the same set up. I almost lost the deer. The arrow didn't go all of the way through....turns out the broadhead was dull!!!
I guess you need to check every broadhead!!!

wscywabbit
10-11-2012, 10:16 AM
Shot placement shot placement shot placement....

As Barry said earlier anything 40# and up with a good broadhead will kill big game in the US. As such, my buddy was having problems with his Bowtech at camp this year, so after Deerchser tagged his deer, we took his 70# '12 Cougar with the Fury cams down 1.5" and 15# to about 55# so our buddy could use it.

Shooting Muzzy's at a deer 30 yds quartering hard to, the arrow went in just in front of the shoulder (barely missed the bone), burying up to the fletchings. With the entry hole plugged and no exit, the doe was a pain to track, and on a down hill run in a draw she went probably 500 yds. But she was dead dead dead. 55# the hard way did the job. I guarantee that if he had waited for her to turn and taken a broadside shot it would have been a through and through....

Moral of the story is that you definitely can NOT blame the bow for poor shot placement and penetration.

Roughneck624
11-10-2012, 12:50 AM
The bow is definitely not the reason for the unfound deer. I own a 2011 exile and it is shooting a 363 grain Easton bloodline at 296 fps. As for the cam question, I wouldn't change to the fury cam, the accu-trak is plenty fast enough and smooth enough for those of us who are on a budget or have kids, etc. hopefully by the en of the year I'll have a 2013 alien. But as far as the exile, tune it right and it will treat you right.