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Ankhdad
04-27-2013, 07:51 AM
Going to my first 3D shoot next week end.
30 targets ranging from deer, turkeys to dinos.
I've been reading up on the basic rules/guidelines. Plus I'm working on gaging my distances.
Just so I don't come across like a complete goof, is there anything else I can do to prepare for this event?

thanks in advance,
Keith

TEN RING
04-27-2013, 08:30 AM
just have fun, remember your to keep your form, don,t worry about your score

elkslayer4x5
04-27-2013, 08:33 AM
Going to my first 3D shoot next week end.
30 targets ranging from deer, turkeys to dinos.
I've been reading up on the basic rules/guidelines. Plus I'm working on gaging my distances.
Just so I don't come across like a complete goof, is there anything else I can do to prepare for this event?
thanks in advance,
Keith

Yes, tell the group that you are shooting with that its your first time, and they'll take care of you. Normally one person scores and pulls arrows and another ( or two ) keep score, for your first time, you don't want to be either of those. :)

Hutch~n~Son Archery
04-27-2013, 08:57 AM
Sounds like fun! as long as you keep it low key! and enjoy!




Hutch:cool:

Ankhdad
04-27-2013, 09:44 AM
thanks guys!
It does sound low key, they even call it 'Rubber Boot Shoot' because of snow-melt this time of year.

Will post some pics next week end!

Durandal
04-28-2013, 09:01 PM
just have fun, remember your to keep your form, don,t worry about your score

Can't stress that enough, keep your form. That was my mistake at the 3d shoot I went to, been working on it ever since.

And he's right on telling you to have fun and not worry about the score.

Despite my horrible performance and 3 broken arrows, I had a blast! :D

Don B
04-29-2013, 09:07 AM
Well, how did you do?
Carefull, shooting 3-D's can become very addicting.
Don.

bfisher
04-29-2013, 09:22 AM
Absolutely what Don B said. The weekend is over and it's time for a report.

CarlosII
05-05-2013, 12:36 PM
i'm surprised nobody mentioned practicing judging distance.

bfisher
05-05-2013, 07:37 PM
i'm surprised nobody mentioned practicing judging distance.

That's because it isn't something you can learn in a few days. Either you got it or you don't. Some people practice it a lot and still never get it. To some it just comes naturally. Practice? Yes, but after the first shoot you'll know more of what you need to learn.

Arrow Splitter
05-05-2013, 07:42 PM
Practice? Yes, but after the first shoot you'll know more of what you need to learn.x2 That will do it.

A.S

Ankhdad
05-09-2013, 11:06 AM
so 2 days before the shoot...it snowed! Just over half a foot! So it has been delayed until the first week in June....will keep ya posted!

bfisher
05-09-2013, 02:49 PM
What a bunch of wusses. Snow should not keep people from shooting unless there's no way to get to the shoot. Here in central Pa. we have five clubs that have formed and participate in a winter 3D league. It starts about the middle of December and runs 15 consecutive Sundays. No matter the weather the shoot goes on, unless there's so much snow that the roads are closed.

Cold sometimes? You bet. I remember one shoot several years ago that it was so bad (Like 24 degrees and 20 mph winds) that by the time I got to target #4 I could no longer feel my bow or my release. I had to take the animals off the pins and stand on them while pulling my arrows with two hands and my back. Needless to say I not only had a bad score going, but didn't finish just due to so much work pulling my ACC's

Somehow, I deduced that 3D was supposed to be fun and this was not fun. Doesn't matter. There are some that brave the elements no matter what. I'm no longer one of them.

Ankhdad
05-10-2013, 12:34 PM
What a bunch of wusses. Snow should not keep people from shooting unless there's no way to get to the shoot. Here in central Pa. we have five clubs that have formed and participate in a winter 3D league. It starts about the middle of December and runs 15 consecutive Sundays. No matter the weather the shoot goes on, unless there's so much snow that the roads are closed.

Cold sometimes? You bet. I remember one shoot several years ago that it was so bad (Like 24 degrees and 20 mph winds) that by the time I got to target #4 I could no longer feel my bow or my release. I had to take the animals off the pins and stand on them while pulling my arrows with two hands and my back. Needless to say I not only had a bad score going, but didn't finish just due to so much work pulling my ACC's

Somehow, I deduced that 3D was supposed to be fun and this was not fun. Doesn't matter. There are some that brave the elements no matter what. I'm no longer one of them.

Now as much FUN as you make this....lol...the main issue was that the animals/targets were not in the ground yet and the ground here is still frozen. I mean they call it the Rubber Boot Shoot, so I'm thinking you're going to get dirty either way. Here's hoping that we don't have any other freak weather between now and June!

Sonny Thomas
05-11-2013, 08:01 AM
i'm surprised nobody mentioned practicing judging distance.


That's because it isn't something you can learn in a few days. Either you got it or you don't. Some people practice it a lot and still never get it. To some it just comes naturally. Practice? Yes, but after the first shoot you'll know more of what you need to learn.

Gots to agree with Barry. Judging yardage is secondary for the first couple of 3Ds. Getting use to shooting 3D is enough to handle. Them dang 3D critters are something different than shooting targets in your back yard. They jump the string more than targets in your back yard ;)

Once going I usually suggest that a newbie have decent binoculars and watch the "gooder" shooters and note the different archery equipment/accessories as it might give insight to something better to have or change to later on.

Judging yardage, I can rattle off a bunch, but....

Like Barry, I have...changed a bit. I use to shoot 3D in snow to my knees. And way back McKenzies were the targets. Pulling arrows from them frozen critters was the need for shooting in a group. 2 or 3 to hold the target and 2 or 3 to pull the arrow. Gots tired of that pretty quick, pulling the arrow, not the shooting in a group.

bfisher
05-11-2013, 12:12 PM
Here's another hint to learning about 3D that I rarely ever read in forums. If you are shooting local 3D's the rules are usually fairly loose. Most experienced shooters may let you, or even suggest that you don't shoot from long stakes, but walk up on targets till you feel comfortable. Afterall, it's supposed to be fun and fun to learn and nothing discourages people more than losing a lot of arrows right off the bat. If walking up a few yards closer just keep in mind that you want to shoot at close to the same angle as was originally planned for safety sake. You can alwasy start shooting longer shots as you gain experience and your distance skills improve, along with your confidence.

Sonny Thomas
05-11-2013, 01:40 PM
Here's another hint to learning about 3D that I rarely ever read in forums. If you are shooting local 3D's the rules are usually fairly loose. Most experienced shooters may let you, or even suggest that you don't shoot from long stakes, but walk up on targets till you feel comfortable. Afterall, it's supposed to be fun and fun to learn and nothing discourages people more than losing a lot of arrows right off the bat. If walking up a few yards closer just keep in mind that you want to shoot at close to the same angle as was originally planned for safety sake. You can alwasy start shooting longer shots as you gain experience and your distance skills improve, along with your confidence.

Yes, this is very much allowed for newbies. Our club does this, but scores are not allowed to be posted.

Me, I try to shoot from the Cub stake, but they won't let me. Bummer... :(

bfisher
05-11-2013, 07:22 PM
To be honest most of our local club shoots seem to cater to the masses, that being bowhunters who shoot 3D. They understand that target shooters are a minority. Most of the guys just want to get out and shoot their bows and socialize. To that end most keep shots within 40 yards with an occasional 45 yarder. Then there are seniors like me who don't have to shoot over 35 yards, although I do on occasion just so I don't go brain dead. Then there's a 25 yard max stake for traditional, women, and kids.

This is why I like shooting local instead of all the IBO and ASA sanctioned shoots. The rules aren't so stupid, yardages are in the realm of reality, and people are having fun shooting---not sitting around on chairs waiting to do so. And it's more of a shoot-what-ya-brung attitude. Of course league shoots are different, but still not as infuriating as the big money shoots. And league shoots are open to the public anyway.

TEN RING
05-11-2013, 08:38 PM
At most of the club I shoot at they have hunter steaks and ibo steaks

Ankhdad
06-02-2013, 03:45 PM
My first 3D Shoot was this past week end, called the Rubber boot Shoot...you'll see why
Had a great time, brought my 14 yr old son.
Scoring was the basic X, 10, 8 and 5...and Zero. We both shot from the 30+ marker.

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We had to get to the yellow marker first....

8145
35 yrds. Carter shot first, then me....little too close

8146
Loins and tigers and bea.....just what the hell is that anyways??

8147
Bonus target, shot from 20 ft tower. Called Bionic Deer...metal body (5pts..and one arrow..lol), soft inside (10 pts).
Carter= 5 pts and one dead arrow, 10 pts for me...just!


another one in coming up in 2 weeks are are pumped to go again!! Just have to keep working on judging yardage.

TEN RING
06-02-2013, 04:33 PM
Looks like you and your son had some fun, a tip to help with yardages any time your out an about pick a tree or mail box judge your yardage then pace it off I like to do look at it then pick a spot half way then double it

Sonny Thomas
06-02-2013, 07:17 PM
To be honest most of our local club shoots seem to cater to the masses, that being bowhunters who shoot 3D. They understand that target shooters are a minority. Most of the guys just want to get out and shoot their bows and socialize. To that end most keep shots within 40 yards with an occasional 45 yarder. Then there are seniors like me who don't have to shoot over 35 yards, although I do on occasion just so I don't go brain dead. Then there's a 25 yard max stake for traditional, women, and kids.

This is why I like shooting local instead of all the IBO and ASA sanctioned shoots. The rules aren't so stupid, yardages are in the realm of reality, and people are having fun shooting---not sitting around on chairs waiting to do so. And it's more of a shoot-what-ya-brung attitude. Of course league shoots are different, but still not as infuriating as the big money shoots. And league shoots are open to the public anyway.

Most clubs around my area are something of the same for distance, around 40 yards and 45 yards being the maximum and a occasional 50 yards for big targets, Elk and Caribou.

Now, this conicides with NFAA and ASA, max distance of 45 yards. ASA does have a Known 50 yard class and as well as a Known 45 yard class. To go with this, the ASA's smallest targets are the Coyote and Javalina and the largest the HD deer - all McKenzie targets. Them scoundrels, the NFAA and IBO, have them #$%^&#@ turkeys.

The NFAA has never regulated yardage for Adults, men or women (all same stake). Yep, 45 yards whether your 20 years old or whether you're 80 years old.

The ASA has 40 yards max for us of some age, 55 years old and older. Personally, I don't care if they had 50 yards.

Actually, rules are pretty similiar up to a point. I think the IBO has closed the gap, removed limits on binocular power, fletchings, points. Adult speed limits; IBO, none. NFAA, 300 fps. ASA, 280 fps for classes of 40 yards and less and 290 fps for classes of 45 yards and more.
The odd ball class is of the ASA. Unlimited. Unlimited is basically a Open class equipment bow, but fixed pins with magnification.