View Full Version : Condolences and well wishes...

07-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Rather than hijack another thread, I thought that maybe it would be best to start a new one for this topic.

Joel, I sincerely wish you the best in your future indeavors, and will be praying that this transition in your life is as easy as possible. You have always been a wealth of information to the rest of us here on the forum, and hope that even though you and Martin have split ways, that you will continue to support those here who wish to learn from your experience. Although I would entirely understand if you were to make a clean break.

We wish you well my friend.

07-02-2013, 02:00 PM
I too would like to wish Joel good luck for the future (I know how he feels, I was laid off recently after 19 years of service!).
I had dealings with Joel in the past and he made the process very easy, he will be a hard act to follow.

Best wishes,


07-02-2013, 02:32 PM
I also wish him well in his search to move on, as I do with Martin as they just lost a valuable employee that reached out to consumers, I looked at him as a part of Martin and what the company stood for on the family values like this form. I believe thing are not well with Martin as the indicators here on this form have indicated. My Fire Cat 400 may be my last Martin Bow. God Speed Joelc.

07-02-2013, 02:58 PM
I guess Joel has told most of you what happened. I could have said something, but it's not my place to do so. And let's get one thing clear. Joel's parting was not a friendly manner. He was fired.

07-02-2013, 03:49 PM
I would also like to wish Joel the best of luck in whatever he decides to do. He was the main reason I stayed with Martin after the Great Bow Blow-Up of '09. I couldn't have asked for a more professional, courteous, or agreeable person to work with. For those that don't know, 3 sets of limbs on an '09 Firecat in less than 5 months. Joel was the one that took care of me. For that I thank him. Martin is losing one of, if not the, most valuable member of it's staff as far as the consumer is concerned. Great wealth of help and knowledge.

Now, Joel, any thoughts about following Laura and the Gartland boys? lol

07-02-2013, 04:23 PM
I guess Joel has told most of you what happened. I could have said something, but it's not my place to do so. And let's get one thing clear. Joel's parting was not a friendly manner. He was fired.

Saw this over on AT never thought that would happen he helped me quite a bit over the years.

bob cooly
07-02-2013, 07:43 PM
NOT a good sign for me, I do not see another Martin coming my way anytime soon. Thanks to you Joel for the outstanding CS, you represent more than a going downhill bow company. I see a post "64" Whine Chester coming.

07-02-2013, 08:44 PM
really ? wow, thanks a lot joelc. x2 on the nothing but professional,courteous treatment from joel . I mean, how hard is his job? I cant fathom having to talk to hundreds/thousands of different people a year(usually unhappy, upset, disappointed people = I bet he can count on one hand the amount of "thanks for the great product" calls he ever rec'd) . its service from guys like him that directly contributed to many a martin bow purchase, have seen countless times posted "well go ahead and buy it, if you have a problem joel will take care of it".
On the lighter side maybe all this brooha(?) is because the big cheez found a new paula deen cook book on his desk?

07-02-2013, 08:55 PM
Sorry to hear a step in the wrong direction for the company.

Sonny Thomas
07-02-2013, 09:02 PM
If any of you have paid attention of the years, Martin employees aren't/weren't the highest paid employees around. I was kind of stunned by hints of "just making a living." As such, especially Joel, employees really had to have a love of archery or Martin to stay with Martin.
Much noted as Joel is I would think and hope his future is brighter.

If you want to make money there are far better places than some bow company. To example; When I retired at the end of 2003 I was making $25.00 per hour and benefits galore. In a area where overtime was available at every turn taking down over $2500.00 a week was possible. Many of us either knocked on the door of or was through the door of $100,000.00 per year. Now, remember, this was 10 years ago.
I retired due to advice from both my personal surgeon and company doctor and then having 36 years with the Caterpillar, Inc. My retirement and Social Security probably adds up to more than what some make today.

07-02-2013, 09:33 PM
WOW, my mind is blown! I just got an email from him on Monday. I will say that my 2 minor issues were handled by Joel and I was impressed. I don't know the whole story but .......really, fired? Live long and prosper Joel.:(

07-03-2013, 01:19 AM
I didnt particularly care for joel , but i could tell the pressure was on him in my more recent dealings with martin. he did what he could. probably a hard time for him and his family, i wish him well.

07-04-2013, 07:34 AM
Joel is the reason we have 4 martins in the family. His help will be missed and may be the reason i jump ship pn my next purcjase

Simple Life
07-04-2013, 01:02 PM
I would also like to thank Joel,he has helped me a couple times in the past and one thing he always returned my calls promptly,more than I can say for other CS of certain companies.He is one of the main reasons I still keep the Firecat.

Good luck and thanks for all you have done for me and the other Martin shooters.


07-04-2013, 09:16 PM
All the best, Joel! I'm one of the many people you helped as well! Your customer service was the reason for three other Martin purchases, for my wife, my nephew, and a hunting buddy. I sure hope that you can remain active on this sight. Many of us appreciate and value your freindship and advise! Praying for all the best things, for you and your family, Rick.

07-04-2013, 09:24 PM

A clip from what allowed me to shoot the bow I love right now ...

08-18-2013, 07:34 PM
Maybe im late to know about Joel story...

Tats just too bad...

i had deal with him Three times through email all the way from Malaysia. and GUESS what... the Outcome of the customer service is PERFECT....
All the replacement parts is been courier to my house door step FOC within 2 weeks time frame.

i dont think other Archery company can reach that extend.

Hope Martin still can maintain that kind of service. else.........