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Ehunter
07-08-2013, 03:59 PM
This is unreal!!!! I am very thankful to Cabela's for making this known. GOD HELP US ALL!! Pass this around to EVERYONE!

Hooray for Cabela's!

Even if you don't hunt or fish…go to your nearest Cabela's and buy something…perhaps a gun to further piss-off Obama!

GOTTA READ THIS!! -ITS A MUST!

Medical Excise Tax on Retail Receipts


The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be "hidden" from the consumer, but it's been brought to the public's attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela's who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts, the email states.
I did some research and found directly from the IRS's website information that PROVES this to be true, and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!
Q1. What is the medical device excise tax? A1. Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

Q2. When does the tax go into effect? A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable medical devices after Dec. 31, 2012.
Q3. How much is the tax? A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price. IRS.gov

Chapter Five http://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html

So being more curious I clicked on "Chapter 5 Of IRS Publication 510."

And what do I find under "MEDICAL DEVICES" under"MANUFACTURERS
TAXES"?

The following discussion of manufacturers taxes

Applies to the tax on: Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;

Electric outboard motors;

Fishing tackle boxes; Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;

Coal;

Taxable tires;

Gas guzzler automobiles; and Vaccines.

IRS.gov I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care.
It truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill Laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people Have yet to be aware of.

Please pass this on. I am still incredulous that this can go on. Where is our press? I guess it’s just like Nancy Pelosi said…….

We have to pass it to see what is in it. What is next? What else is there we do not know about? I am sick to death about our government……

all of them!!!!!! God help us .

Spiker
07-08-2013, 06:08 PM
The difference between Hitler and our 'government' is that Hitler wanted it now, and our 'rulers' learned that they must be patient and enslave us one day at a time.

Ehunter
07-08-2013, 06:20 PM
And Hitlers social plans actually helped his country. Granted, he was a genocidal warmongering lunatic, but his social reform is still in use today.

wscywabbit
07-08-2013, 06:23 PM
Was listening to Hannity the other day and a guest brought up an interesting point; he believed that Obamacare was designed to fail.... Not only does it impose a ton of hidden taxes on EVERYONE that will piss people off, but it is not maintainable. Meaning its insolvent from the beginning and if it stays active long it will bankrupt us as individuals and as a country.

Why would the guberment push such a thing on us? Its one more step towards total socialism; when it fails miserably, the leaders on the left can say "Oh well, we tried a "balanced social approach" to healthcare insurance, and it doesn't work. The only thing that can make it solvent is to make it a "single payer system"...

What is that you ask? That is where the entire medical system is taken over by the government. There will be no "health insurance" it will all be run by the guberment making us dependent on them for our healthcare.

Ehunter
07-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Which is the left's ultimate goal. Make everyone totally dependent on the government.

wscywabbit
07-08-2013, 06:41 PM
Exactly, which is why for instance, there has been a HUGE increase in the number of people on disability and on food stamps. Did you know that the USDA actually has "recruiters" that get paid a salary and bonuses based on the number of people they "sell" food stamps to? Doesn't matter if the recipients need them or not, if they qualify they "should be recieving benefits, its your right"...

dzsmith2
07-08-2013, 08:09 PM
that's old news, but very good and very true. Screw Obama, he and his regime can rot!

dahdav
07-09-2013, 12:45 AM
The interesting part of Obama-care is they never came out and said what the tax rate is going to be, not specifically and with details. Like social security, it was sold as a trivial price with great benefits. SS was 2% when first introduced. Now, it's over 15% with both employee and employer portions added together. Obama-care will end up being over 20% within a decade or less. Added to SS, fed tax, and of course state, sales, property, and all those other hidden taxes, our effective rate is nearing around 80%.

Health care is grossly over priced for a myriad of reasons. One of them is we are subsidizing a lot of the medicine sold in the other countries. Many people aren't aware of this but much of the world imposes a price cap on drug prices. Remember some of the pointed scenes in Sicko? Some inhaler for 50 cents in Cuba costs around 50 bucks here. It's not because the drug company is ripping us off. It's because Cuba told the drug company, "You can only charge our people 50 cents for that inhaler. We don't care what it actually costs. If not, you can't sell anything here. " Same throughout Europe and Canada. That's why medicine from Canada is so much cheaper. Guess who gets to make up the difference? We do. Only because we still have a free market system being strangled by free loading socialists worldwide.

Another issue is the AMA. They control the number of students in medical school. Keeping the numbers down ensures artificially high salaries. Those same doctors that hand out total disability vouchers like candy. Yes, we are being slowly but surely enslaved by a government and it's our own doing. Too many people want their entitlement and someone else to pay for it. Government is all too willing to grant their wish because in the end, government will own them and the rest of us forced to pay for their unwillingness to fend for themselves. Gone are the days of the pursuit of happiness. Now it's a guaranteed marginal existence at 100% tax rate. After all, we're all too inept to make it on our own. That's what D.C. wants us to buy into.

Tosi
07-09-2013, 07:44 AM
Some small business and other larger companies will start dropping individual employees insurance and force the worker to take Obama care come 1 Jan 14, or the employee will pay the IRS a fine for not having insurances. This will create large savings for business in 2014 but will have to provide a heath insurance plan by Jan 2015; this will cost the employer and employee more for coverage than currently. Businesses also are hoping that the employee will just stay on some type of the federal Obama care plan as this will be a savings to the employer. I believe a lot more will come out this year as a negative impact on Americans. The low informed American that love's this dud, hopeful will start to figure it out.

bfisher
07-09-2013, 06:25 PM
Some small business and other larger companies will start dropping individual employees insurance and force the worker to take Obama care come 1 Jan 14, or the employee will pay the IRS a fine for not having insurances. This will create large savings for business in 2014 but will have to provide a heath insurance plan by Jan 2015; this will cost the employer and employee more for coverage than currently. Businesses also are hoping that the employee will just stay on some type of the federal Obama care plan as this will be a savings to the employer. I believe a lot more will come out this year as a negative impact on Americans. The low informed American that love's this dud, hopeful will start to figure it out.

This and all that was said above it. Let's see, who might some of the free loaders be? How about 71% of the Latinos who voted for Obama. And now they want to let another 11+ million in on the freebie chain. So what's that? 8 million more votes for liberal socialism.

dahdav
07-10-2013, 01:11 AM
The irony is that under obama's watch more Mexicans were deported than in any other administration. We need to remember, they really aren't latinos, what ever that means. A pseudo status invented to shield themselves by playing a fictitious race card. They are a nationality to be more precise, mexican or from what ever central or south american country they're from. Foreign nationals invading our country is the truest and most accurate identifier. Where is our military which according to the constitution is supposed to protect our borders from invasion? Every legislator and senator that voted for this obomanation [sic] is guilty of treason as far as I'm concerned.

typically8
07-10-2013, 01:40 AM
I hate to poop on the party but....I have a Cabela's 3 miles away and was just there last week and made a purchase. The receipt just says the total of the tax. The tax was less the 5% . Clearly someone is pulling the wool over your eyes. I am not trying to start a fight, just thought you might want to know.

dzsmith2
07-10-2013, 05:16 AM
The irony is that under obama's watch more Mexicans were deported than in any other administration. We need to remember, they really aren't latinos, what ever that means. A pseudo status invented to shield themselves by playing a fictitious race card. They are a nationality to be more precise, mexican or from what ever central or south american country they're from. Foreign nationals invading our country is the truest and most accurate identifier. Where is our military which according to the constitution is supposed to protect our borders from invasion? Every legislator and senator that voted for this obomanation [sic] is guilty of treason as far as I'm concerned.

me and you would get along great

dzsmith2
07-10-2013, 05:23 AM
And Hitlers social plans actually helped his country. Granted, he was a genocidal warmongering lunatic, but his social reform is still in use today.

theres is so much more information on the "why" hitler did the things he did. he was a maniac, but it worked, he saw an issue, he saw a class of people leeching on his country and he eliminated the problem. he didnt create a special goverment funded program to give them free crap. and if you really do research you will find that before killing jews they were actually deporting them by the truck,train, or boat load only to have them turned down or sent back.......youll never read that in an american history book. on a lighter note, he also had total control of his peoples liberties. no firearms, very limited choice of anything, they suffered thats for sure, probably why he assassination was attempted over and over

dzsmith2
07-10-2013, 05:29 AM
This and all that was said above it. Let's see, who might some of the free loaders be? How about 71% of the Latinos who voted for Obama. And now they want to let another 11+ million in on the freebie chain. So what's that? 8 million more votes for liberal socialism.

yes brother. 70% of all republican votes last election were from evangelical whites in the states. this election proved exactly what hes trying to do, there simply isnt enough old folks left if ya know what i mean, so yes by bringing these ppl in equals more votes for the left.

Skbengal
07-14-2013, 10:21 PM
This is unreal!!!! I am very thankful to Cabela's for making this known. GOD HELP US ALL!! Pass this around to EVERYONE!

Hooray for Cabela's!

Even if you don't hunt or fish…go to your nearest Cabela's and buy something…perhaps a gun to further piss-off Obama!

GOTTA READ THIS!! -ITS A MUST!

Medical Excise Tax on Retail Reciepts.
I did some research and found directly from the IRS's website information that PROVES this to be true, and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!


So being more curious I clicked on "Chapter 5 Of IRS Publication 510."

And what do I find under "MEDICAL DEVICES" under"MANUFACTURERS
TAXES"?

The following discussion of manufacturers taxes

Applies to the tax on: Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;

Electric outboard motors;

Fishing tackle boxes; Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;

Coal;

Taxable tires;

Gas guzzler automobiles; and Vaccines.

IRS.gov I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care.
It truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill Laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people Have yet to be aware of.

Please pass this on. I am still incredulous that this can go on. Where is our press? I guess it’s just like Nancy Pelosi said…….

We have to pass it to see what is in it. What is next? What else is there we do not know about? I am sick to death about our government……

all of them!!!!!! God help us .

Hi Eric! Sorry, I have to laugh! I don't live in Mr. Obama's jurisdiction, but when you think about it, some of those items, truly are medical devices. Sports fishing equipment, outboard motors, bows, quivers, broadheads, and arrows, hmm? I suppose the people using these devices are actually in better overall heath than most people in our society are. Could you then call them health improvement aids? You sure have to give Mr. Obama credit for a novel interpretation though. Sorry to see that it gets under your skin though! Hope the rest of your summer gets a little better! Rick.

Ehunter
07-15-2013, 03:37 AM
Hey Rick, glad to see you on here again. I guess those "devices" would fall under "therapeutic devices" according to the Obama administration. lol I think Cabelas has since been made to remove the tax label from them though. As someone mentioned earlier, it's not showing on their current receipts.