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dzsmith2
07-15-2013, 05:14 AM
my new obsession bow wants to tune carbon express maxima 350s, well i dont want to shoot them cuz they arent american made. ive heard a few good things about these black eagle arrows. anybody out there shooting black eagle, and have any suggestions on them

bfisher
07-15-2013, 05:53 AM
Can't help you out with that. There have been a couple start-up companies making arrows. Can't remember the other one (senior thing). It's all over the place on AT. I hope these companies prosper and grow their products. So far they are more or less just catering to the hunting crowd with heavier spines. With the weight and draw length I have about the stiffest shaft that I can get working for me is 500. I really need 600 to 730 spine and these new companies don't offer them yet. Guess I'll just have to make due with my GT Ultralites for now.

There was a time many years ago when I would just go out and buy new stuff just to try it out for myself, but with the price of arrows getting to be what it is it's just too expensive. When Carbon Express hit the market I was one that wouldn't shoot them because of being made in Korea. Now it's the price. They are good quality arrows, but the price has gotten so ridiculous with many of the new carbon arrows that I refuse to change. It's not much more money any more to shoot Easton ACE shafts. And besides, I only buy a half dozen and they last me for as much as five years or more.

Sonny Thomas
07-15-2013, 06:16 AM
Not American made....So you throwing away your hunting clothes and hat? All seems made in Tiawan, Bangalash, Mexico and where ever else. I have one camo hat that's made in America, tag say it is anyway, and I have to get it through the company I retired from, 35 miles to their employee's store.

And your bows "wants to tune" Carbon Express Maxima 350s? Within reason my bows will tune any arrow I want them to. Want American tradition? Try Easton, long time American company....

Just being straight up with you....

Spiker
07-15-2013, 07:06 AM
I've been shooting BEA's since they came out. I use both the Carnivores and the Carnivore UL's in .400 spine. Great arrows. I weighed and measured the first dozen of each and they were straighter than advertised and only 2 grain variation in the dozen of each.
Fly great and the only ones I've damaged have been from robin hoods.
I'll be buying more and may try their Zombie Killers if I decide to go with a bit heavier shaft.
Now wether they are actually 100% made in the USA I couldn't tell you.

Tosi
07-15-2013, 07:27 AM
Try Deer Crossing Achery Arrows, I'm shooting some 300 hunters with great results. Price is right too.

Don B
07-15-2013, 08:01 AM
Black Eagle shafts are made off shore, same as most of the Easton shafts along with most of the other arrow companies out there now.
My Money is on Deer Crossing Archery arrows and shafts,you can't beat the price.
Out of 3 dozen of the Target shafts that I checked they all were .002 in straightness and weighed 2 grains of eachother.
Don.

dzsmith2
07-15-2013, 09:52 AM
black eagle claims to be american, but im not surprised. archery has more american made products than most other stuff, so i prefer to shoot american when its available.

Don B
07-15-2013, 10:46 AM
black eagle claims to be american, but im not surprised. archery has more american made products than most other stuff, so i prefer to shoot american when its available.

If you ask the guys at BEA if the shaft is made here or if they are put togeather here, they had better say put togeather here.
For all the info I have, they are made at the same plant Harvest Time shafts used to be made at.
Most places will claim to be American made, yes the arrows are but not the shafts.
Don.

dzsmith2
07-16-2013, 05:21 AM
If you ask the guys at BEA if the shaft is made here or if they are put togeather here, they had better say put togeather here.
For all the info I have, they are made at the same plant Harvest Time shafts used to be made at.
Most places will claim to be American made, yes the arrows are but not the shafts.
Don.

i noticed that muddy isnt making the "harvest time" ht arrows anymore

dzsmith2
07-16-2013, 05:26 AM
Not American made....So you throwing away your hunting clothes and hat? All seems made in Tiawan, Bangalash, Mexico and where ever else. I have one camo hat that's made in America, tag say it is anyway, and I have to get it through the company I retired from, 35 miles to their employee's store.

And your bows "wants to tune" Carbon Express Maxima 350s? Within reason my bows will tune any arrow I want them to. Want American tradition? Try Easton, long time American company....

Just being straight up with you....

oh i agree within reason, my vaps will still shoot a bullseye, but on paper they tear, and i cant cut the arrow anyshorter to stiffen the spine. thats the problem. i want a bullet hole on paper without shooting carbon express basically is what im saying

Sonny Thomas
07-16-2013, 10:24 AM
i noticed that muddy isnt making the "harvest time" ht arrows anymore

Muddy Outdoors renamed the Harvest Time arrows. First was Harvest Time Archery when Bart first sold HTA to Muddy. Then came Virtues, but Harvest Time Archery in small print. The newest are called Blood Sport. Okay, same company, but Muddy owns entirely.

Beings I have about a dozen HTAs and 2 dozen Virtues, 32 arows all together, I'm in no hurry to buy the Blood Sports.

Some low down; I first had issues with the last of the HTAs. Muddy had bought HTA and had no obligation of warranty, but checked my HTAs for straightness, gave me the results where I trashed a dozen of the two dozen I had. Muddy then offered me a deal and I took it for the noted above 2 dozen arrows.
Both the checked HTA arrows and the newer Virtues are virtually identical for weight and danged pin point accurate.

Sonny Thomas
07-16-2013, 10:27 AM
Black Eagle shafts are made off shore, same as most of the Easton shafts along with most of the other arrow companies out there now.
My Money is on Deer Crossing Archery arrows and shafts,you can't beat the price.
Out of 3 dozen of the Target shafts that I checked they all were .002 in straightness and weighed 2 grains of eachother.
Don.

I have some Easton carbons with "Made in America" and I don't think they are that old, couple of years maybe....

Sonny Thomas
07-16-2013, 10:47 AM
black eagle claims to be american, but im not surprised. archery has more american made products than most other stuff, so i prefer to shoot american when its available.

And some long time favorites are now coming from foreign countries right along with some excellent products that began "over there." Seems somethings are Pre-tested for the American market and those that go over big end up being made "over there" by means of want of the extra buck or two.

And some of the best brand knives and optics are coming from "over there." Said the optics are getting so good some of the top brands are being matched and surpassed.

I have my brand and American loyalties, but I'm not bullheaded either. Take my wife's Mexican assembled American Ford truck with Canadian made engine...Please! God, I hate that thing.....Won't get out of it's own way, seat belts mice love eating up (what the H__ are they made from?) and %^^&&**#@ electronic dome light sensors on the doors - $275 to replace or advice from mechanic; spray H___ out of with LPS a dozen times. Electronic speed sensors on the front wheel, hit bump knocked out sensor. $3.00 part (like to passed out from it not costing that much) and $75 labor for ten minutes to install it (like to passed out again).

otisT
07-16-2013, 11:00 AM
What do you really think of the Ford, Sonny? lol JK now, relax!! Remember your sore hand before you hit anybody!.. lol .... o