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firefighter42
08-01-2013, 04:08 PM
(i posted this over at AT earlier and got a few responses. wondering what you all thought)

hello, question concerning my current anchor point. shooting a 2012 martin silencer (70#, 29", trophy ridge revolution, g5 sight) and am considering changing releases to get the string up back in the desired mouth/nose area. I've been using this cobra release forever and have had good success shooting this way, but good can always be better, soooo. I like where my hand fits against my jaw and don't really want to move that but was wondering if I went to a shorter release if I would go to a 30" draw and get the string to where I had 2 points of contact and perhaps increase consistency. any opinions would be great. thanks


http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab355/christiancarpenter/Deer%20Fish%20Dirtbikes%20Ebay%20Weapons/024_zps381f5b7d.jpg


(decided to work on my release since it's old and needs updating anyway. the following is copied from AT post as well)


ok. finished modifying my release. I took about 2" out of it (it was adjustable but would only go longer if you can believe that!). tell me if this looks better. I just shot the one arrow but it was a bullseye so I don't think i'll have to adjust a whole lot. i'll probably get a new release (it no longer swivels after my customization) but I think it will give me a good idea of how long to get. this one will go in the hunting pack as a backup (to the backup).


http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab355/christiancarpenter/Deer%20Fish%20Dirtbikes%20Ebay%20Weapons/002_zps186dc3b2.jpg


so what do you all think?

bfisher
08-01-2013, 08:32 PM
I think there aren't any pics to see.

Barry

typically8
08-01-2013, 11:32 PM
I used to anchor at the corner of my mouth. It did not allow for much downward travel of the sight. So, after many years, I relocated to under my draw. I had to use a kisser button for it to seem normal. I like that kisser now. Anyway l/s/s, iI had to shorten my release about 1/2 inch. I don't know if this info will help
ps welcome to the forum.

firefighter42
08-02-2013, 04:28 AM
not sure what happened to the pics. then when I tried to fix them I lost the entire post altogether. lol. anyway, here is before and after removing 2" from my release. anchor point is the same and I haven't adjusted draw length, and it feels much more comfortable.


http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab355/christiancarpenter/Deer%20Fish%20Dirtbikes%20Ebay%20Weapons/024_zps381f5b7d.jpg

http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab355/christiancarpenter/Deer%20Fish%20Dirtbikes%20Ebay%20Weapons/002_zps186dc3b2.jpg

bfisher
08-02-2013, 05:27 AM
Pics are here now. I'd like to see a couple from farther away for an overall assessment, but focusing on the release I have to say you made a good adjustment. Much better now and you look more comfortable and your anchor looks closer to where it should be; more natural looking.
The angle of the first pic might be deceiving, but it looks like your bowarm is hyperextended. Either that or the elbow is really turned out. Hard to tell from the angle of the pic and how close the shot is. At this point I'd say you have the release just about right

With a full length shot we might be able to do some fine tuning on your form. First pic looks like your head is pulled back and you were leaning back. How is it now?

Sonny Thomas
08-02-2013, 06:43 AM
????? firefighter started and bfisher #1 as Post?

elkslayer4x5
08-02-2013, 09:49 AM
Oh-oh! Is Barry starting to talk to himself? We'll need to start worring when he gets awnsers. :D

wscywabbit
08-02-2013, 01:26 PM
Oh-oh! Is Barry starting to talk to himself? We'll need to start worring when he gets awnsers. :D

I think he's already started to answer himself LOL :)

firefighter42
08-02-2013, 01:27 PM
Not sure where the original post went and I put the pictures back up but they are gone again. Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Lol. If anyone finds the post or pics feel free to repost them. Any tips on posting pictures from photobucket?

wscywabbit
08-02-2013, 01:32 PM
I don't think its anything you did FF42, something funky with the thread, its not showing your first post at all. I'm sure Barry or one of the moderators will get it fixed. BTW, welcome to the forum! ;)

firefighter42
08-02-2013, 01:34 PM
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wscywabbit
08-02-2013, 01:42 PM
I'm kinda with Barry, it almost looks like you're over-extending your bow arm, and it seems you may be leaning backwards a tad, both indicators of being a bit long on draw length. Your anchor points look good though. See if you can get a side shot head to toe, and we'll be able to tell for sure.

Sonny Thomas
08-02-2013, 02:42 PM
About like all have said; I first pic, 7/29, is showing bow are hyper extended, bow shoulder appears high, anchor too low and leaning back. So lots of; draw length of bow is too long. Note; pic 1 seems to show your bow forearm going down, indicating elbow out instead of the norm 45 degree down.

Pic 2, 8/01; Looking gooder. String almost touching the nose and crossing corner of mouth is almost the said perferred align thing. Pic not all the good for seeing, but hint of bow arm still not right. Like to have pic of bow arm, you, shoulder all the way out to and including hand to grip and a full length pic, your stance and all....

PhotoBucket has two ways to post pic, img should automatically load here, cope, paste thing. The is a link to get pic. And we have the paper clip ;)...attachments, load from your computer, just make sure of pic being JPEG ...won't accept Bitmap. Size to 400X400 or there of is nice size.

typically8
08-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Well, all that chatter was funny. Remember your body should look like a lower case "t". I see a lean as well.

firefighter42
08-02-2013, 09:21 PM
I'll see if I can get some head to toe shots tomorrow. Not to complicate things, but I recently bought a 4 finger release but hadn't really used it yet as I've been focusing on getting the new Martin set up. I'm thinking that while I'm making these adjustments it would be a good time to phase it in. Any advice on what changes I'll need to make or adjustments to my anchor point? Etc. I shot with it once and my groups were about 6" high and right (I'm a lefty). My hand will turn 90 degrees with a handheld, correct?

Sonny Thomas
08-02-2013, 10:34 PM
I'll see if I can get some head to toe shots tomorrow. Not to complicate things, but I recently bought a 4 finger release but hadn't really used it yet as I've been focusing on getting the new Martin set up. I'm thinking that while I'm making these adjustments it would be a good time to phase it in. Any advice on what changes I'll need to make or adjustments to my anchor point? Etc. I shot with it once and my groups were about 6" high and right (I'm a lefty). My hand will turn 90 degrees with a handheld, correct?

Any change can change shot placement, so no big deal. Thumb release, I take it? If so, no, your hand should be about 45 degrees. Anchor is usually first and second knuckles of hand at corner of jaw and jaw bone splitting the first and second fingers. This gives something of a bone to bone anchor and easily repeatable. Don't force, you want natural. Don't anchor too far back or a tendency to roll the hand may come about, keep fingers to the jaw line and you'll be okay. And then it's just getting use to and making any fine adjustments. Hand same way if going with a hinge.

otisT
08-03-2013, 12:45 AM
Yes, welcome firefighter; nice, helpful folks here. Glad you posted pics as proper anchor has been plaguing me too. Would like to see some that were 'right'.