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flashpoint08
08-07-2013, 02:53 PM
Hello, new member here. I just recently have gotten into archery, and long story short I traded some man cave stuff for a Martin Take down bow, I have no ideal what the name of the bow is and it is missing a arrow rest and who knows what else. For the moment I've just been shooting the arrows off the shelf with it.

It's a left handed take down bow which rules out the Jaguar from what I understand. It has a camo aluminum grip section with all sorts of holes some threaded some not, The limbs are black and say Martin, the only other writing on the limbs I can find is white letters that say at 28" #50 so I assume this is at 28 inch draw the weight is 50lbs? The guy included a manual with it but it's for the Jaguar so that has me really confused as everything I've read everybody says a left handed Jaguar was never made :confused: I asked the guy the name of the bow and said he thought it was a Tracer, but I can find nothing listed on the Martin website about a Tracer.

I can take some pictures and post them up if that would help, main reason for wanting to know about this bow is I'm looking for a sight rest that will fit it, mainly the stinger rest w/ mount it says it'll fit any martin bow so I assume this one would work? Also was curious if fast flight strings would be ok to use with it? Oh and any ideal where the length might listed on it? The string that came with it was a 14 strand 60" dacron so I'm guess it's the right string since I've shot it and it appears to be ok.

Any ideals what I've got here and what parts will work with it?

wscywabbit
08-07-2013, 03:55 PM
sounds like a good find, even if it is a lefty ;)

I'm sure once you get some pics posted up we'll be able to identify it for certain.

Welcom to the forum!

flashpoint08
08-07-2013, 06:06 PM
being as I'm a southpaw I was pretty stoked I actually found a left hand bow, usually when I come across trades it's for the righties but I think I scored pretty good this time haha. I had been shooting a old bow that belonged to my wifes father but it was a right handed bow while I could shoot it barn sides where safe from me

So here are some pictures of the bow in question.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/flashpoint08/th_P6200212_zps9c996826.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/flashpoint08/media/P6200212_zps9c996826.jpg.html)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/flashpoint08/th_P6200211_zps2314e638.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/flashpoint08/media/P6200211_zps2314e638.jpg.html)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/flashpoint08/th_P6200210_zps46398198.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/flashpoint08/media/P6200210_zps46398198.jpg.html)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/flashpoint08/th_P6200209_zpscf17f08f.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/flashpoint08/media/P6200209_zpscf17f08f.jpg.html)

Thanks for the warm welcome and the help!

bfisher
08-07-2013, 08:34 PM
Martin makes a couple of TD recurves, but I think you may have gotten some bad info. The limb pockets give away some info. These are used on the Jaguar TD from 2009 to this year so yours is at least a 2009. As far as I know the bow hasn't been changed since it's introduction. That being said the bow's length is AMO 60". My question is, does the string actually measure 60". Normally traditional strings measure 3" less than the AMO length of the bow, although they are packaged and marked for the AMO length of the bow.

Martin never made a Tracer traditional bow. Going back in earlier catalogs they only started making TD recurves in 2009 to the present. The only other two were the Saber and Diablo, both of which use the newer Roto-cup technology instead of standard limb pockets.

As for sight and rest (accessories) you can mount anything you like. The sight holes are standard 10x24 threads and stabilizer and rest holes are standard 5/16x24 same as all other bows. However, if you are planning on shooting fingers I would recommend a flipper rest/plunger combination or some other rest designed for finger shooting. These would include an AAE or Cavalier Freeflight, Cartel Star Hunter, Bodoodle Timberdoodle II. Something in those lines. You need something with side pressure to help control archers' paradox as the arrow leaves the bow.

Getting back to the string. Whatever length you need is just a guess on my part, probably 57", but you need one that is made of Dacron, BCY B-50, or B-55. I don't know whether the limbs would stand up to any of the no stretch, fastflight materials. I'm shooting a Diablo with the same limbs and it's just not worth the extra speed to take a chance on destroying the limbs. If you want a lot of speed then get a compound. I have a slew of them, too, but the Diablo is my play toy. Once the string is installed you need to measure the brace height and make sure it's at least the recommended 7".

flashpoint08
08-07-2013, 09:52 PM
wow thanks for the info bfisher!

I've not measured the string yet, I was planning on ordering a new string this weekend as the one that came with it is fairly worn plus I really like the flemish twist over the dacron strings, I have a B-50 flemish twist string on the other recurve and it feels better in my fingers and it takes my otter fur silencers better. Would I be losing any accuracy or velocity by going with the B-50 over the dacron?

As for the rest you mentioned will these mount to the riser frame by screws/bolts or are they adhesive backed? Eventually I would like to hunt with this bow once my skill level has increased and I fear that the adhesive backed rest would fall off while out in the field. But I have no experience with them so maybe I'm worried about nothing. I will have to google those rests and check them out. A string and a rest is first things on my shopping list.

So I guess it's possible I have a very early Jaguar? That would explain the manual then.

Arrow Splitter
08-08-2013, 03:17 AM
I'm not a traditional shooter, but I do have the Jaguar compound before Martin made it a take-down. That riser doesn't look like the normal Jaguar riser, and you are correct, the Jaguar was only right-handed. You just might have a unique bow right there.

A.S

Arrow Splitter
08-08-2013, 03:18 AM
By the way, welcome to the Martin Tech Forum!:)

A.S

bfisher
08-08-2013, 05:10 AM
The rests I mentioned are all bolt-on models. You don't have to google them. Try www.lancasterarchery.com and you can see them all. For simplicity and budget sake I would recommend the AAE Freeflight.

flashpoint08
08-08-2013, 11:45 AM
thanks you guys so much!

Only I could find the most mysterious bow in the world haha. The reason I thought it might be a tracer takedown was where the original owner mentioned it plus I found a tracer take down on amazon but couldn't get a good look at the picture but it seems very close:
http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Archery-2011-Left-Tracer/dp/B0088QR6SC/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

My only concern in the end though is if I can get parts for it like replacement limbs for it if one ever cracks. I wonder if the Jaguar limbs would work in it?

thanks for the link bfisher!

Stevtech
08-09-2013, 08:14 AM
I have never used another, but I like the NAP Centerrest Flipper Arrow rest. It was recommended to me by a guy in the Archery shop. It Looks a little fragile when you first see it but mine has held up well. It has very good reviews. I have a Martin Diablo, and my groups keep getting smaller and I keep getting more bulls eyes. Improvement is slow but keeps getting better. Sting wear has been a problem for me but I think I finally found one that can hold up. It is from Extreme Bow strings; "Flemish twist". Custom made.
About three or 4 hundered arrow and absolutly no sign of wear.
They had a discount deal going too. I wish I would have ordered two.

55# is very heavy for starting out. I've read if you can't hold it for 15 seconds without shaking it is too heavy.
Good luck with your new to you bow.

elkslayer4x5
08-09-2013, 09:39 AM
It could be that someone had a lefthand Jaguar riser and bolted the limb cups and limbs from a newer Jaguar take-down on to it.

Spiker
08-09-2013, 11:02 AM
That's what I was thinking. Someone had a riser from whatever model and just put recurve limbs on it.

flashpoint08
08-09-2013, 05:07 PM
That's what I was thinking. Someone had a riser from whatever model and just put recurve limbs on it.[/QUOTE]

I thought this myself but these parts make me think it is a martin, first could have took from a martin bow and bolted on but the second just seem like they are meant to be there. They Say Martin part or pat number 559,516,8 not sure if it's a part number or patent number.

Spiker
08-10-2013, 06:19 AM
Yes Martin for sure but maybe not a factory take down recurve...

CaptJJ
08-10-2013, 06:59 AM
thanks you guys so much!

Only I could find the most mysterious bow in the world haha. The reason I thought it might be a tracer takedown was where the original owner mentioned it plus I found a tracer take down on amazon but couldn't get a good look at the picture but it seems very close:
http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Archery-2011-Left-Tracer/dp/B0088QR6SC/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

My only concern in the end though is if I can get parts for it like replacement limbs for it if one ever cracks. I wonder if the Jaguar limbs would work in it?

thanks for the link bfisher!

Its a Tracer, same as the one in the Amazon ad: same triangle shaped VEM, same holes in the riser.

Spiker
08-10-2013, 07:54 AM
This is a 2006 Jaguar Mag. Right hand. It's in my basement.

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I vote for a Tracer too.

Arrow Splitter
08-10-2013, 08:59 AM
My 07 Jaguar and my sister's 05 Jaguar look the same as Spiker's Jag.

A.S

flashpoint08
08-10-2013, 10:30 PM
thanks guys for all the help and advice. I ended up getting ordering the NAP center rest and a new string for it. hopefully will be able to set up my nocking point once I get my rest installed.