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Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-23-2013, 07:29 PM
Is it abnormal for a bow not to paper tune at 9 feet. Most of the paper tuning I have done and seen is done at 9 to 10 feet. Mine absolutely won't! At 12 to 15 feet it is perfect. At 20 yards it hits dead on and I mean dead on.



Hutch:cool:

TEN RING
08-24-2013, 08:29 AM
did you try a bare shaft at 9 ft just to rule any issuse, and yes I have most of the time it was nock related meaning the nock was to tight and the serving

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-24-2013, 05:06 PM
did you try a bare shaft at 9 ft just to rule any issuse, and yes I have most of the time it was nock related meaning the nock was to tight and the serving

Sounds good!!




Hutch:cool:

Sonny Thomas
08-25-2013, 03:08 PM
With today's bow, it is abnormal not to be able to paper tune at 9 feet. I perfer 6 to 8 feet to start. Using a bare shaft can point to the problem. Bare shaft comes out of the bow cleanly, then a ragged hole with the fletched arrow tells of contact somewhere. Bare shaft won't tune, then rest issues or bow issues or both.

bfisher
08-25-2013, 07:46 PM
Hutch, what do you men the bow is dead on at 20 yards? Do you mean fletched arrows or a bare shaft? I would say fletched arrows sighted in for 20 yards will be dead on at 20 yards whether the bow is tuned or not.

I have always liked bare shaft tuning---old style. I kneel in front of a target butt at about 6" and fire a bare shaft at shoulder height (level) and see what it's doing. Most times it's close enough I can move back to 10 yards and try again, adjusting the rest, nocking point or whatever combination it takes to get it straight in the vertical plane. Once I get the vertical I then work on the horizontal, adjusting point weight, centershot, or draw weight to get it going into the target straight. Then I keep moving back, making smaller adjustments till it's flying like a lazer out to 20 yards. Then I start comparing POI with fletched arrows. Normally they hit the same POI.

If I get real froggy I keep moving back and adjust so that bare shaft, fletched arrow, and broadhead all hit within a 3" bullseye out to 35 yards.

You can shorten the process slightly by bare shafting through paper. Keep moving back from the paper and keep trying to punch bullet holes as you back up. Of course, your form, especially grip, better be spot on.

Sonny Thomas
08-26-2013, 07:31 AM
Barry's tellin' straight. It can be done. Target shooter me doesn't go to such extremes, but have seen the need.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-27-2013, 03:04 AM
Hutch, what do you men the bow is dead on at 20 yards? Do you mean fletched arrows or a bare shaft? I would say fletched arrows sighted in for 20 yards will be dead on at 20 yards whether the bow is tuned or not.

I have always liked bare shaft tuning---old style. I kneel in front of a target butt at about 6" and fire a bare shaft at shoulder height (level) and see what it's doing. Most times it's close enough I can move back to 10 yards and try again, adjusting the rest, nocking point or whatever combination it takes to get it straight in the vertical plane. Once I get the vertical I then work on the horizontal, adjusting point weight, centershot, or draw weight to get it going into the target straight. Then I keep moving back, making smaller adjustments till it's flying like a lazer out to 20 yards. Then I start comparing POI with fletched arrows. Normally they hit the same POI.

If I get real froggy I keep moving back and adjust so that bare shaft, fletched arrow, and broadhead all hit within a 3" bullseye out to 35 yards.

You can shorten the process slightly by bare shafting through paper. Keep moving back from the paper and keep trying to punch bullet holes as you back up. Of course, your form, especially grip, better be spot on.

I will give it a shot Barry!!!


Hutch:cool:

Sonny Thomas
08-27-2013, 07:35 AM
??? Is that the same bow of a while back?

Hutch~n~Son Archery
08-27-2013, 02:04 PM
2010 Bengal and it has speed nocks which gives it a low nock throw on release. So I changed my rest to a drop a way and now I am trying to tune it well.





Hutch:cool:

Sonny Thomas
08-27-2013, 03:56 PM
I have speed nocks on 3 of my single cam bows. I've never had them effect tuning or any bow I've tuned.
Had one of the best worst drop rests on the market today and no tuning issues.
Once locked the prongs of a shoot through rest and still tuned the bow.

Something there we ain't seeing.....

Wheel turns freely? Cam turns freely? Both Limbs maxed and/or both *backed off equally? Draw stop set correctly? STS set correctly?

*Always mark bolt back to limb, not washer.

All set correctly, nocking point should be set no higher than 1/8".... Old bow maybe 1/4" high nocking point. Both my 2000 model Hoyts, UltraTec (314 gr arrow) and MagnaTec (380 gr arrow) single cams are 1/8" nock high. Pure poison...

Though nothing wrong with a double cam bow, but I'd rather set up a single cam bow any day.

bob cooly
02-19-2014, 03:23 PM
Hutch check out my post about putting (stuff) into your strings.