View Full Version : australian 3d nationals

11-20-2013, 05:27 AM
same place as last year.
the vietnam veterans motorcycle club at murrurundi, nsw australia
half way between sydney and brisbane, then inland a bit.

here's minnie shooting the mystic in the top ten barebow shootout after final scores.
same beautiful martin mystic as last year.8580

and here are the top 10 barebowers8581

11-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Hi there Minnie! I'm back on the Martin forum after a long time away. Just putting together a 2011 Shadowcat, for when I'm not shooting Trad. Same Bob [Razor longbows] just different username. glad to see you still have the Mystic and still going great by the looks. Don't suppose you will be going to the National 3d [ABA] titles up at Wide Bay next year around April?

11-26-2013, 06:49 AM
hi bob, third nationals where i have shot the mystic. and i have still never seen another one anywhere.
i wont be at wide bay but i'll be at north albert trad at easter again.
and good luck with the shadowcat, you'll have a few months to play with it before wide bay.

Don B
11-26-2013, 12:14 PM
Congrats on the great shooting.
When you say barebow, do you string walk or just have the long stabilizer?

11-27-2013, 05:20 AM
thanks don
barebow top 10 is for the top ten highest scores shot by unsighted shooters. 3DAAA generally folllow IBO rules.

in the photo
4 of us shot barebow (unsighted) compound. MCU and FBU divisions. stringwalking is allowed but none of us do. any stabiliser is allowed. i shoot long, the other 3 have short.
4 recurvers (RU recurve unaided) stringwalking is allowed, but only 1 did. can use any stabiliser. 2 shot long, 2 shot short stabilisers
2 trad shooters on the left. no stabilisers or stringwalking allowed. shot off the shelf.

gets a bit complicated when shooting different association events though, where the stabiliser and stringwalking rules change a bit.
i have to shoot a short stabiliser in barebow compound at those events.

11-27-2013, 04:30 PM
The 3D Nationals I mentioned are actually the ABA titles Minnie, not your normal 3DAAA. WE can only use a 12'' max. stabiliser as you mention. I have a 6'' stab when I actually use one., just a finger tab, no sights nor any string walking [not allowed in ABA] On a good day I keep a lot of sighted guys honest, on a bad day ------?????? UUUUGGGGHHHH. Look forward to seeing you at North Albert providing it doesn't clash with the Nationals.

Sonny Thomas
11-27-2013, 09:57 PM
Unsure of how they do it down under. ASA doesn't have a Bare Bow Class or Sightless class that I know of. The NFAA does have a Bare Bow class which is allowed any length stab and back bars. Competitive Bow Hunter (which many clubs call Bare Bow) is heavy tackle, no sights, no release and limited to 12" stab. Now, Competitive Bow Hunter can compete in Bare Bow, but Bare Bow can not compete in Competitive Bow Hunter - stab restriction.

11-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Sure miss the "way back when" it was much simpler. you either had a sight or you did'nt. Freestyle ( with sights ) or Barebow (without ) Stringwalking was allowed in Barebow.Class divisions where easier then as well, but then along came the compound.....:D

03-13-2014, 10:07 PM
Still around Minnie? I scored a win in the south east Qld 3d titles recently with my bow wildly out of tune at the time. Looking forward to the National ABA titles in April.

03-14-2014, 11:35 AM
You are just kind of stuck on that Mystic aren't you, Minnie? Seems like you're always up there with the top dogs. Good shooting.

03-14-2014, 10:56 PM
This is an old thread, just wondering if Minnie was still floating about on here from time to time.

03-16-2014, 08:21 AM
minnie is alive and well, somehow the system is not automatically logging me in when visiting.
great shooting bob, keep up the good work, and best wishes for the ABA nationals soon.
will you shoot ABA 3d or the colour target ABA round?
we'll be at the north albert trad at easter, hope that doesn't clash with your nationals, and you get to shoot some timber arrows with us.

hi bfisher, can't say i have any wish for any other (compound) bow than the beautiful mystic i own, though the barnsadale classic x somehow appeals to me.
have still never seen another martin mystic, nor a barnsdale.
the mystic shoots fine with fingers and no sights for 3d, field and ocasionally target. 2 3d wins for 2014 to date.
using a finger sling for the last few months has made for much better shots, and shooting recurve has improved the fingers release.
i play with recurves (barebow) when i'm not shooting the mystic, but am not up to competing in the recurve divisions other than at the trad get togethers where we shoot off the shelf with timbers and feathers.

happy shooting.

03-16-2014, 05:23 PM
thanks Minnie, though I neglected to say it was only in 'B' grade due to not shooting 3 D much. The ABA nationals will clash with the north Albert so won't be there unfortunately to fling a few sticks out of my trad bows.glad you still like the Mystic, I'm just wrapped in my shadowcat with Barnsedale limbs.

04-22-2014, 04:28 AM
just an update Minnie, managed to get a second place in the ABA nationals in B grade, and then bombed out in the 3 D after a shocking 4th round when i was in serious contention to end up 4th. Hope you had a good shoot at Nth Albert.

04-22-2014, 07:17 AM
bob, congratulations on your second in the ABA, better luck with the 3d next time. at least you got to shoot in better conditions than i heard the IFAA was shot in, earlier in the week. we weren't real sure what that cyclone would be doing for easter for the trad event. beautiful conditions for us. i really enjoyed the weekend and shot second place in the womens recurve, again. and only damaged 1 of my beautiful wallace woods. the new format seemed to work well.

and our 3dAAA nationals are to be at caboolture in november, not far from you.

04-22-2014, 05:15 PM
after getting a taste of the 3D at our nationals I think I will have a go at your titles too, Minnie as I think it will be a cross participation event.Probably see you there as Caboolture is just down the road from me.

04-23-2014, 11:07 AM
Good luck to both of you, keep up posted, and take lots of pics!! :D

04-23-2014, 05:34 PM
I'll try and post a shot later of myself with silver medal and the bow that helped do it.

04-24-2014, 10:54 AM
There ya go !! :)

04-25-2014, 02:23 AM
Its comin!!! soon--- or before long-- eventually. Say Minnie what category would I be in at your titles at caboolture and do they have grades in barebow. ie no sights etc and finger release. As part of the archery Alliance would I be entitled to awards, or is there a separate category for non 3DAAA?

04-25-2014, 04:23 AM
bob, you would be in male compound unaided (MCU) in 3DAAA competition which follows IBO rules. no grades in any divisions.
shooting from the yellow peg with a maximum unmarked of 32m/35y.
$40 for a years 3DAAA membership, otherwise non competitive, which i'm not sure of how it works.
caboolture 3daaa club is near morayfield, check the 3daaa website.
if you're up for more 3d, we will be at ipswich for queensland state series next sat and sun (first weekend of may).
i will be shooting my beautiful mystic. the trad gear is having a rest for a while.

04-25-2014, 09:13 AM
bob, you would be in male compound unaided (MCU) in 3DAAA competition which follows IBO rules. no grades in any divisions.
shooting from the yellow peg with a maximum unmarked of 32m/35y.
$40 for a years 3DAAA membership, otherwise non competitive, which i'm not sure of how it works.
caboolture 3daaa club is near morayfield, check the 3daaa website.
if you're up for more 3d, we will be at ipswich for queensland state series next sat and sun (first weekend of may).
i will be shooting my beautiful mystic. the trad gear is having a rest for a while.

What sort of 'trad" gear do you shoot? Recurve or long bow? I've read that you shoot 'timbers', am a big fan of POC myself.

04-25-2014, 05:43 PM
funny you mention trad gear elk slayer, as I shoot trad as well with my own longbows which I make for people that order them. In our game [ABA] we have a trad peg maximum of about 30 yards unmarked distances and kneeling, bending, all around hunting type shots for 20 targets. Requirements are longbow or 'curve [separate divisions] wood arrows and feathers.I use POC's, have done for 35 years. Its a lot of fun and quite a few people are getting sick of the high pressure. miss a spot and your gone sort of shooting and going to the more laid back style of things.Myself I enjoy using compound [barebow] just as much as stickbows, even if I cop a lot of flack from traddies each time they see me with the wheely bow, especially seeing as how i make the darn things!

04-26-2014, 05:01 AM
elkslayer, my trad gear is fairly basic, a 30# samick sage recurve, shot off the shelf. i shoot some beautiful custom wallace woods, very light target timbers made of australian hoop pine. (see the website of wallace woods in australia) cost just over the price of the sage. i also shoot some port orford cedars, which is what i started with. gotta love watching those big slow arrows with the red feathers fly. i also have a 23"hoyt excel riser with 30# kaya k3 short limbs which i also shoot barebow, with tiny little cartel triples 1100 for the ocassional indoor and shooting out to 30m target at the club. otherwise i compete in 3d womens barebow compound, shooting my martin mystic. also have a go at field when i can. sometimes there is just not enough weekends.

04-26-2014, 05:17 AM
9320these don't smell as good as port orford cedars when they break.

04-26-2014, 10:17 AM
Love the smell of Port Orford Cedar, just prefer the smell of making them, not breaking them! :( Favorite thing is shooting field with a recurve, have reached the top classification, using all styles of shooting, Barebow, I stringwalked, and shot freestyle ( sights ). Learned the most when I walked the string combined with face walking. Doing that made barebow easier. I have shot field with a compound barebow, and will soon do that again using fingers this time. Even though I know that my favorite is traditional equipment, watching that long slow arc come down into the target! :D

04-27-2014, 12:14 AM
nice arrows Minnie Steve does great work.

CLT Bluesman
04-27-2014, 08:34 AM
What a cool thread to read, thanks for the updates and the knowledge! What a great forum, uniting Martin and archery lovers from all over the world.

04-27-2014, 08:44 PM
Tried to upload photo here but when i get to select files it wont respond any further.

04-28-2014, 09:41 AM
Click on From Computer on the Top Left then click on Basic Uploader in the lower right corner, then browse. :)

04-28-2014, 05:35 PM
Ok here goes again Thanks for that Elkslayer 9350