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Gteam
01-10-2014, 07:28 PM
I took these two bucks during the 2013 season with my Martin Firecat. These are Pacific Hybrids and both qualify for the California Bowmen Hunter record book. It was a great season.

NuttyNative
01-10-2014, 07:43 PM
Nice deer, what's a Pacific Hybrid?

Arrow Splitter
01-10-2014, 09:26 PM
Congrats on both deer, great job.:cool:

A.S

naptime
01-10-2014, 11:05 PM
nice job.

but.. i'm seeing double!

Gteam
01-10-2014, 11:18 PM
Pacific hybrid is actually a sub species of the mule deer, the Pacific mule deer is the smallest of the mule deer. they are not a true hybrid not sure how the name came about but that's what we call them.

NuttyNative
01-10-2014, 11:21 PM
So, are these a cross between Blacktail & Mule Deer?

Gteam
01-10-2014, 11:27 PM
California Fish and Wildlife list the Pacific Mule Deer as a separate species and we have a separate category for them in our archery record book.

elkslayer4x5
01-11-2014, 11:17 AM
So, are these a cross between Blacktail & Mule Deer?

Yep, you got right. Here in Oregon, any deer east of the Pacific Coast trail is concidered a hybrid, a blacktail/mule deer, or as we cal 'em, a muletail. :)

Don B
01-11-2014, 12:15 PM
Congrats on the nice bucks.
Where in So. Ca.?
I am in Riverside and have hunted all over here in the local mountains.
Don.

bfisher
01-11-2014, 05:55 PM
Looks like big body deer. What I find interesting is that the first one shown does not have two pronged (split) G1 while the second one does.

Chip
01-11-2014, 09:46 PM
Congrats on the great season!

typically8
01-12-2014, 09:22 AM
Awesome

Mike G
01-12-2014, 01:51 PM
Congrats on both bucks!!! I guess I always thought they were a whitetail/mulie cross, never really thought much about it, but I have some friends and cousins that live along the west coast. You got some awesome bucks there!

Gteam
01-14-2014, 12:50 AM
Congrats on the nice bucks.
Where in So. Ca.?
I am in Riverside and have hunted all over here in the local mountains.
Don.
D-11 and A 31 Angeles National Forest.

Gteam
01-14-2014, 01:00 AM
Looks like big body deer. What I find interesting is that the first one shown does not have two pronged (split) G1 while the second one does.
First buck is a 3X3 second buck is a 3X4 with split G1s on both sides.

Sonny Thomas
01-16-2014, 09:03 AM
Mule ears = mule deer ;)

bob cooly
02-11-2014, 08:44 PM
Indeed you are to be commended, those are truly nice deer, esp. for S. California. I know the Blacktails and Mule deer interbreed but did not know they were in a class all by themselves. That makes 6 classifications that I am aware of. Rocky Mtn., Desert, Inyo, Blacktail, California, and now a Pacific Hybred.

elkslayer4x5
02-12-2014, 10:13 AM
Indeed you are to be commended, those are truly nice deer, esp. for S. California. I know the Blacktails and Mule deer interbreed but did not know they were in a class all by themselves. That makes 6 classifications that I am aware of. Rocky Mtn., Desert, Inyo, Blacktail, California, and now a Pacific Hybred.

I guess that you could call it 7, up here they're refered to as Cascade hybrids. :) Apparently all deer interbreed, according to DNA studies the mule deer was the offspring of a whitetail doe and blacktail buck. Have you been to "Blacktail Country", a web site devoted to blacktails, got photos of some monsters!!
http://www.blacktailcountry.com/

bob cooly
02-13-2014, 05:43 PM
All I know any more is the horny one are called bucks and the skin heads are called does. Don't have the legs or lungs to hunt the steep stuff anymore so if it is legal it will taste just fine, ate some tenderloins out of a small one last year and the cut like butter. Guess cause they were seared in butter, garlic and onions med rarer than most.:p

wscywabbit
02-13-2014, 05:59 PM
LOL now I'm hungry Bob, Thanks! :)