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CLT Bluesman
01-27-2014, 10:21 AM
I was picking up some crossbows the other day at GM, and I really did not like the way they felt. I was thinking, "now suppose Martin designed one".

I personally do not like them. I have an old Browning from back in 1984 or thereabouts, and I just do not like the cocking, and to me the inherent unsafetyness of the deal. I inherited it from my Dad, and it is a pain. I believe it was one of the first compound crossbows. I do not fool with it much. But as I get older a crossbow might be a viable option. Also, they are selling like hotcakes. Here in NC at the local bow shop, they jump off the shelves.

I know if I designed one, what I would like. I would like a forend that is longer than the current offerings, I would like a no fail guard that keeps fingers away from the rail. I would like an adjustable stock. A good crisp trigger. A anti-dry fire of some type. And less poundage where legal. No more for sure than 150lbs. Narrow ATA. A nice scope. Maybe even a bi-pod.

Anyway, just thinking, this could really be a big seller for Martin. I just read where Bowtech just bought Excalibur crossbows.

bfisher
01-27-2014, 10:41 AM
As much as I deplore their use I don't hunt any more (lost the desire) I still see where there is a great demand, and growing, so whatever it takes to make a buck, put more people to work, and keep a company making money is OK with me. Afterall, I can't sit back and play that I am holier than thou. I don't make the laws. I might not agree with them, but have no ill feelings with those who would use them to their advantage. One advantage to more people using them is that they are at least hunters and can voice their desires to counter the anti's.

Bluesman, what you would like to design is already available, albeit quite expensive. Ten Point makes crossbows with all the features you seek with the exception of the lower draw weight.

Sonny Thomas
01-27-2014, 02:39 PM
I feel about like Barry. And the Ten Point, just a awesome crossbow, though models of line may be different. A friend has a Ten Point, went with 3 glow dots sight and it is exceptional accurate. Though it has the pulley type cocker it is far easier to use than the Barnnett crank cocker. Another friend has the Barnett and though accurate I'd use it for boat anchor, I like the Ten Point that much better.
Draw weight of cross bows need to be more than compounds. One, draw length is quite is quite short, like 10 to 12 inches and 17 inches being the longest. Because of the "horse power" the need of a heavier arrow. Most cross bolts start at 422 grs.
Most are all anti-dry fire, most come with a safety, most have finger/thumb guards, but consider optional equipment and have to be ordered.
Yes, most have finger/thumb grooves, but doesn't stop the sTupId from doing the sTupId. Sticking the fingers or thumb up is guaranteed to shatter finger/thumb bones or just plain have them taken off. S.C. had a cast on his arm up to his elbow for his shattered thumb. A guard that flanged outward would have contained his wayward thumb.

On the upside, many can not reach state requirements when it comes to draw weight of traditional or compounds (40 pounds in my state). And then, some have such short draw length they are down on horse power, though I opt that accuracy is best...

CLT Bluesman
01-27-2014, 10:26 PM
I just thought it would be a way for Martin to reintroduce themselves an create some company buzz. Yes, Tenpoint seems to be at the top of the game. They are high though. If I was to buy one today, I would go with them. But if I had the opportunity to buy a Martin brand I would go that way.

CLT Bluesman
01-29-2014, 08:56 AM
I looked at the KodaBow website, man they sure have some nice crossbows. Real "tactical" looking. They have adjustable stocks, and pistol grip forends. Also Ruger invested in them. As nice as they look, they are still a crossbow, and not a real bow like we use. We are the real Indians.

droppixel
01-29-2014, 09:18 AM
I think if they were to get everything else in order and have a stable business plan and few years of success, it might be nice to see one come down the road. They have gained a lot of popularity in recent years, I would probably wait and see if that maintains before putting out a product that would end up sitting on shelves.

Ehunter
01-29-2014, 03:38 PM
I'm with Drop on this. I think once they reestablish Martin as a bow to be dealt with, then they could look at the crossbow market if they wanted to. Give them 2-3 years of making bows as great as they once did, and then expand from there. Just need to concentrate on one thing to get started back up though. Kinda like Savage rifles.

bfisher
01-29-2014, 03:51 PM
I agree. You know the old saying, "Too many chefs can spoil the soup"? Same can apply here. I've seen too many businesses that expanded beyond their core business and ended up going bankrupt. I'd say Martin has a core business to get in order first. A couple years, at least. Besides, I'm not in the mood to add another sub-forum here yet.

Sonny Thomas
01-29-2014, 04:11 PM
I agree, Barry. Martin gets on feet their and running, then maybe look at crossbows. I'd just as soon they leave crossbows to others. How big name bow makers are into crossbows? PSE and ?????

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-29-2014, 04:16 PM
They have enough on their plate, I'd leave well enough alone till they get back in the game and score a few points with the public!



Hutch

wscywabbit
01-29-2014, 04:39 PM
yep I think we all agree that Martin needs to get back on their feet before expanding into new ventures. Besides a lot of states don't let hunters use crossbows yet, so the demand has not reached its full potential yet. I think it will be there someday though. Washington State let crossbows into the field this year, but not during archery season.... during rifle/modern firearm season.