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webbnate_45
03-21-2014, 12:27 AM
From time to time I like to check out other manufactures and see what they are offering, and tonight I checked out the other "M". Am I the only one that doesn't think they make a single good looking bow? Now like everyone else performance matters more than looks, but looks does matter, at least to me. And to me the bows they are selling are downright fugly! It's like they were eating honeycomb cheerios one morning at a design meeting and someone said... I got it! Make our bows resemble a honeycomb! Just my .02 here, getting down from my soap box now.

elkslayer4x5
03-21-2014, 08:23 AM
It's partially your appreciation of Martin's and the fact that they make fugly bows and want twice as much for 'em! :D

Sonny Thomas
03-21-2014, 09:23 AM
webbnate, sounds like denial.... You know, rant against something and you really want it bad ;)

Hey, just joking....

Tosi
03-21-2014, 11:37 AM
I own one of those other M bows. It may be ugly to you but it flat out performs my other bows on feel and accuracy. I bought at close out for a great price. At the time I was looking for a hunting rig that was at 32-33" ATA that I could use in a blind, tree stand an or spot and stock. At the time I was about to purchas another Martin but there future was not so bright. It may be the only other M bow that I will ever own, but it's my go to bow. I may never own another one as I just don't like them. To short ATA. Bottom line "a ugly bow to one man, may be a perfect bow to another man".

Rockyhud
03-21-2014, 12:30 PM
I'm with you on them being ugly and overpriced in addition to providing no better performance. I shot a Z7 at a dealer's shop a couple of years back when I was somewhat considering a replacement for my 08 Firecat. I will admit it had a smooth draw and was pretty quiet at the shot, but no more so than my Firecat and its speed wasn't even close to my Firecat AND it was right at twice the cost new of what my Firecat cost. The ONLY thing I could find that was better was the overall final finish (all rounded/radius-ed areas with no sharp edges or unfinished machining marks) was a little better than my Firecat. So, twice the cost, not as fast or any more accurate or quiet AND having an ugly waffle grid riser - that was an easy decision to not "upgrade" to that "M" bow.

webbnate_45
03-21-2014, 01:29 PM
HaHA very funny Sonny! ( I just made a rhyme yay) As for the performance side mentioned, I for one don't find them to be all that superior to a Martin, if they are at all. Of course everyone has their preference and will argue for the brand they prefer. For me it isn't just about numbers, it has a lot to do with feel of the bow and what I am comfortable with. A buddy of mine bought a used "M" Drenalin' and I know he paid twice as much for it as I did the new Nemesis I bought. Your paying extra for the name, not the performance. After all, almost every manufacturer claims to have the fastest, quietest, etc. bow on the market. More than anything the point I was trying to make with the thread is that they are really ugly bows, not that they don't perform well. When both those things are taken into account they don't compare to a Martin. In my more novice I don't know a whole lot opinion :)

Sonny Thomas
03-21-2014, 05:14 PM
Guys, time out.... Who had bows out hunting where you could see them? Who had the Cream of the Crop shooting World and National events? Who fired up NASP?

You want to make money, sell bows, you spend money....in the right places. Beautiful girl that Laura is, and others (all eye candy), just didn't cut it.

Gary Studt and John Wheeler didn't make any headways either. Gary, I never heard of him until after he was gone and then I didn't care for his "performance procedure" for Martin bows. John had his "Vegas" moment and was gone the next.

Hopefully, what's his name will make a improvement....

CLT Bluesman
03-21-2014, 07:38 PM
They are some butt ugly bows. And so overpriced. In fact I think the majority of bows are so overpriced. They cost more than most guns for crying out loud. The other M has a bow that they want over $1500 I think. That is crazy. You can have over $2000 in a new bow in a minute. Nuts.

HawgEnvy
03-21-2014, 09:24 PM
I've always been a Mathews hater and thought the grid riser was repulsive. But I started seeing the pics on different threads and the black ones started to look more and more appealing. I was at the shop shooting a few weeks ago and made the mistake of shooting the ChillR. I didn't know til I had been shooting it awhile that it was maxed at 74# and it was so easy to pull. Smooth all the way back with no major dump in to the perfect valley. Not a "limb stop solid" wall, not mush, but it settled down to firm rest and was easy to shoot consistently off the wall. The Focus grip was very comfortable and easily repeatable. No shock, but the bottom kicked out a bit with push/pull shot and open grip. Setteling into the wall and gently squeezing the trigger it would roll forward nicely. Again,both styles easily repeatable. One of,if not the quietest bows i've ever shot. I was amazed at everything about this bow. I came home and put my SR-71 and Iron Mace on CL and both sold immediately. I've NEVER been impressed THAT much by ANY bow that I would be willing to drop that amount of cash on. That says something to me. It just sucks that it ended up being a Mathews of all things. Oh well, I guess. Future fanboy alert lol. Believe it or not,guys, this bow is smoother and quieter than my 60# Cheetah or my 70# Begal both with M-pro cams. So bash away. I'm very much enjoying my new huntin' partner.

Tosi
03-21-2014, 09:44 PM
Concur Hawg, best bow I've ever shot is my z7 mag. My FC400 is also a great bow but it has Barnsdale limb that puts it over the top, my son shoots it and it's his pride and joy. I will look at the 15 Martins and see what they come up with , I like the lithium. I had a Onza and sold it, it was a good shooter but my best friend needed a bow. In the past I've had too many issue with the Power Tough limbs. Some forks had-no issues. Luck of the draw I guess, let see what Martins comes out with in 15.

GB3YO
03-22-2014, 05:22 AM
I held one of the new chills put it down before there was trouble in my wallet

Sonny Thomas
03-22-2014, 08:14 AM
HawgEnvy hit on something, draw stops. I'm more and more of the notion that I want a bow without adjustable limb draw stops. Maybe a hold over from Hoyt returning. Yeah, adjust mods to the draw length you want and go shoot.

bfisher
03-22-2014, 12:07 PM
There has been and still is nothing, NADA, that has ever come close to even appealing to me from that other "M" company. Maybe I'm one of those guys who like classic, flowing lines to the riser like Ross or Elite or Strothers. Something with graceful flowing lines, and a waffle isn't one of them. And as far as shootability I've never had a bow I couldn't shoot. My last 26 bows have been chosen sight unseen and unshot yet I've shot almost all of them as well as any other.

underwood
03-22-2014, 06:23 PM
Had Martin for many years, and own 4 right now. Shot other brands, some good some not. Always counted on reliability with a bow not so much on looks.

CLT Bluesman
03-22-2014, 08:19 PM
I forgot that I bought a Mathew's last year. But it was a Craze for my 12 year old Grandson. So that does not count. It actually is a pretty nice bow for a starter bow that he can hunt with for a while.

droppixel
03-23-2014, 01:12 PM
Buddy of mine has/had (not sure) a z7 he won from a raffle from a series of 3D shoots. I'll give them credit, they are sweet shooters, but the aesthetics of the bows just aren't my style. That I'm not one to get caught up into hype and over spend on my tools. To each his own, they just aren't for me.

TEN RING
03-23-2014, 01:25 PM
that is one bow company I can't get my arm's round so to speak

elkslayer4x5
03-24-2014, 10:28 AM
I comemd them on their advertizing team..Everybody has heard of that brand.

wscywabbit
03-24-2014, 03:03 PM
Mathews has been smart with its advertising and merchandising, that's for sure. I haven't really liked any of their "waffle" risers though. It seems to me that the last decent looking bows they made were the Drenalin series and their composites. They do have nice cams, I'll give them that but its just hard to get over their current aesthetics... and their price points! ;)

Ehunter
03-24-2014, 07:24 PM
I owned an MQ32 way back when they first came out. Way before the waffle design. I shot the bow extremely well, but I have to say looking back, it wasn't much of a pleasure to shoot. After that bow, I started shooting Martin, and haven't touched one of the other "M" bows since. The first Martin I got was a Moab, and it outshot the MQ32 six ways to Sunday. And at half the cost. Never saw a reason to go back after that.