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CaffCyc
05-29-2014, 08:35 AM
Just ordered three strings for my Panther and I am excited and a little nervous.

A little background, I've had my Panther for just about a month and I shoot 1500-3000 arrows a week.

After two weeks, the stock string was up to 50 twists to keep the brace height correct. I replaced it with a flemish dacron, and after about 2 weeks it SEEMS to have settled in, right in time for the serving to be almost worn through.

So I got in touch with a bunch of builders, and 6 or 7 of them recommend that I use BCY 452x string material. Another 2 or 3 recommend Brownells Fury, and 1 recommended 8190.

I send an email to John Nelson from Martin:

Hello,
I have a 2014 Martin Panther recurve, and I contacted a few string makers and most of them are recommending strings made from BCY 452X. I wanted to verify that this would be a good string material to use, and that it would be safe to use with the panthers limbs.

The reply that I got back:

Ryan,
All of our takedown recurves are fast alight compatible. 452X is a very good choice of string material.
Thanks,
John Nelson

So my stringbuilder asked me to measure my current string, and we went over serving size, loop size, number of stands and colors, etc, etc.

I will have the strings next week, and I will report how the 452X compares to the dacron strings once I get it strung up.

bfisher
05-29-2014, 10:31 AM
Just ordered three strings for my Panther and I am excited and a little nervous.

A little background, I've had my Panther for just about a month and I shoot 1500-3000 arrows a week.

After two weeks, the stock string was up to 50 twists to keep the brace height correct. I replaced it with a flemish dacron, and after about 2 weeks it SEEMS to have settled in, right in time for the serving to be almost worn through.

So I got in touch with a bunch of builders, and 6 or 7 of them recommend that I use BCY 452x string material. Another 2 or 3 recommend Brownells Fury, and 1 recommended 8190.

I send an email to John Nelson from Martin:


The reply that I got back:


So my stringbuilder asked me to measure my current string, and we went over serving size, loop size, number of stands and colors, etc, etc.

I will have the strings next week, and I will report how the 452X compares to the dacron strings once I get it strung up.

You should see several changes. One is that once you set the brace height it should remain as such. The other, and one I like, is that you should see a substantial speed increase. I changed from the factory string to Trophy material and picked up 24 fps and that was with 30# limbs. Hutch did use two less strands being as a recurve just doesn't put as much stress on as a compound. Also the bow was more quiet without the addition of string silencers.

elkslayer4x5
05-29-2014, 10:45 AM
Let us know if your bow's preformance improves with the new strings. And welcome to the site! :)
At 1500-3000 shots a week, you're shooting a lot every day, I'd say that this isn't your first recurve.

CaffCyc
05-29-2014, 10:14 PM
I am not a speed nut, so we opted to go with 24 strands. I also really hope that I don't need string silencers. I have beaver balls on my flemish, and they look great. They made a HUGE difference in the sound of the bow, but they are a pain to put on.

I will report back with any changes (good or bad) that the new strings bring.

I do shoot a ton, maybe too much (if thats possible). I have the ability to shoot while at work, and I take the 2 or 3 minutes to fire a dozen arrows as often as possible.

You are correct in saying this isn't my first recurve, but it's my first in a while. I shot from age 6 until about 18/19. Now at almost 29, my 5 year old son got me back into archery.

This will be my first year hunting, if all goes right this summer.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gydhUgXCrKA/U36yamIUT7I/AAAAAAAABAE/ncQ6UlOkOjA/s1024/DSC01516.JPG

elkslayer4x5
05-30-2014, 09:22 AM
Glad your son brought you back! :)

CaffCyc
05-30-2014, 06:08 PM
I am glad to be back. I didn't realize I missed archery as much as I did.

Pulled this one off this morning. 10 yards. First shot missed by about an inch.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gQu3GnLXC6Q/U4kGZtkBSpI/AAAAAAAABCM/yvykF3Bk4Sc/s1024/DSC01546.JPG

60X
05-30-2014, 08:37 PM
The 452X will be a huge upgrade over the dacron. I prefer 8190 over 452x but we have several customers that are the opposite. You'll be set with any of the modern materials though.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
05-30-2014, 08:46 PM
I say the same as 60x, 8190 preforms better for most of the modern re-curves I have built for and a good speed gain. But you have a lot of choices fortunately



Hutch

CaffCyc
05-31-2014, 07:08 PM
There seems to be a huge debate over 452x on a recurve. I went with it, figuring there may be something that I like slightly better in the future, but knowing there's no way it will be worse than the dacron.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
05-31-2014, 07:26 PM
452x is a very stable material and good. Nothing wrong in trying it out. X or 8190 might be the way to go for a little more speed. Might even be quieter.


Hutch

FishingandHuntingUSA
05-31-2014, 09:31 PM
I am glad to be back. I didn't realize I missed archery as much as I did.

Pulled this one off this morning. 10 yards. First shot missed by about an inch.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gQu3GnLXC6Q/U4kGZtkBSpI/AAAAAAAABCM/yvykF3Bk4Sc/s1024/DSC01546.JPG

Yea but you ruined a perfectly good bober :)

CaffCyc
06-01-2014, 10:12 PM
They were replaced for this year ;)


Yea but you ruined a perfectly good bober :)

CaffCyc
06-01-2014, 10:14 PM
If I haven't mentioned it.... I LOVE this bow. As long as I do my part, it always does its part.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Qj6rGV667m4/U4vq97TeDxI/AAAAAAAABDE/32plgGk-cho/s1024/DSC01548.JPG

elkslayer4x5
06-02-2014, 10:08 AM
Isn't it amazing how little we forget when we put our bows down for a while? Pick them up againg and it's almost like we never stoped. Good shooting!

CaffCyc
06-02-2014, 11:40 AM
It's amazing how much muscle memory was retained. Muscle mass on the other hand...... I used to shoot a 55lb bow (for no specific reason other than I was 17 when I got it, and bigger was better then). I shot it every day, and did fine with it. When I ordered the Panther, I got it with 40 lb limbs because that was the lightest I can hunt with in CT and I was shocked at the effort it took to build those muscles back up.

I may order a set of 50lb limbs before hunting season, but for $20 more I may just order a Jaguar with 50lb limbs and put them on my Panther, and put the 40's on the Jaguar for bowfishing.

elkslayer4x5
06-03-2014, 09:06 AM
It's amazing how much muscle memory was retained. Muscle mass on the other hand...... I used to shoot a 55lb bow (for no specific reason other than I was 17 when I got it, and bigger was better then). I shot it every day, and did fine with it. When I ordered the Panther, I got it with 40 lb limbs because that was the lightest I can hunt with in CT and I was shocked at the effort it took to build those muscles back up.

I may order a set of 50lb limbs before hunting season, but for $20 more I may just order a Jaguar with 50lb limbs and put them on my Panther, and put the 40's on the Jaguar for bowfishing.
Thats a pretty solid idea! :)

CaffCyc
06-06-2014, 09:52 PM
Strings will be here tomorrow. Full report to follow.

elkslayer4x5
06-07-2014, 08:49 AM
Did you decide to get the Jaguar?

CaffCyc
06-07-2014, 01:38 PM
I didn't decide yet.

I also got the strings today, unfortunately they were smashed in shipping.... so they are heading back.

elkslayer4x5
06-08-2014, 10:25 AM
Smashed? How would that hurt them? Would think it would take some serious smashing to damage strings. But then, some for the stuff I've recieved form the post office....:eek:

CaffCyc
06-09-2014, 12:08 PM
9515

He recommended that I send them back.

Spiker
06-10-2014, 12:41 AM
That is a new bow string .???

elkslayer4x5
06-10-2014, 10:02 AM
Good ole usps strikes again! :(

CaffCyc
06-15-2014, 03:31 PM
I ended up canceling the order from the person who originally made the 452x strings for me.

I have a string made from BCY X coming in tomorrow from Hutch and Sons for a test fitting. Can't wait to try it out and get 2 or 3 more on the way! Top notch service from Hutch and Sons. http://bowstringdepot.com/

As soon as we get the exact specs for the panther dialed in, I will post them for anyone else looking.

CaffCyc
06-19-2014, 02:37 PM
Just got my BCY X string in.

Super fast, I never thought I would notice a difference in speed, but it is huge. Right now, the string is louder than my flemish dacron was, but I don't have any silencers on it yet.

Specs that we went with:

24 strands BCY X
1.25" upper loop
1.75" lower loop
59.5" with 40 twists at rest, puts the brace height at a perfect 7"

Got two more on the way now that we have it dialed in!

Arrow Splitter
06-19-2014, 02:49 PM
That's good to see. I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of arrows flying soon?:cool:

A.S

CaffCyc
06-19-2014, 03:22 PM
Oh yeah!

This is one of my best groups at 15 yards ever, shortly after putting the new string on.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-48qSv4Mz99w/U6NGOzpstoI/AAAAAAAABLY/PVO-8odb13c/s912/DSC01598.JPG

Hutch~n~Son Archery
06-19-2014, 07:26 PM
Bout time! :)


Hutch

Arrow Splitter
06-19-2014, 08:24 PM
NICE!!!:cool::cool:

A.S

elkslayer4x5
06-20-2014, 09:01 AM
Good enough to put venison in the freezer, if thats what you want to do, good shooting! :)

CaffCyc
06-23-2014, 10:12 AM
12 yards.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bYUSBuWWZII/U6hDpiCZCpI/AAAAAAAABMg/7HFFhzw50CI/s912/DSC01605.JPG

Arrow Splitter
06-23-2014, 02:52 PM
Cha-ching!!!!!:D

A.S

Hutch~n~Son Archery
06-23-2014, 02:55 PM
Now the cost goes up! ;)

elcid99
06-23-2014, 05:42 PM
Haha... Hutch, looks like ot is time for you to start building arrows!