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05-29-2008, 11:47 PM
Originally Posted by losduos
Hi, there.
I Have a few questions about the Martin Mystic. There seem
to be several different versions of the bow. Some for 400 to 500$ and others for voer 700$. Where is the difference? They theme to have the same specifications, only the color is different!!

Sorry for the englich, I'm from Germany

dbd870
05-30-2008, 02:30 AM
The less expensive one has the Mini MPro single cam, and magnum limbs - more of a hunting set up whereas the more expensive one has the Furious dual cams and Elite limbs - a target set up.

Montalaar
05-30-2008, 05:13 AM
And another german. Hi.

Also. Ich orientiere mich jetzt der einfacheit halber mal an den Preisen von Andreas Franzen in Hamburg.
Das Günstigste ist der Mystic Magnum mit den M-Pro in Camo. Als Target-Bogen mit eloxiertem Mittelteil musst du direkt 70€ drauflegen. Dann kannst du den Mystic auch mit Elite-Wurfarmen bekommen, macht auch nochmal einen Preisschub. Dann kannst du natürlich auch noch andere Cams verwenden. Am teuersten ist der Mystic Elite mit Furious-X Cams in Targetfarben.

Sprich: Im Prinzip kannst du dir deinen Bogen individuell zusammenstellen. Daher auch die vielen verschiedenen Preise. Jede Zusammenstellung hat einen individuellen Preis.


I just gave him some information occuring the various options he could use on a Mystic and how they influence the price of the whole product. =)

dbd870
05-30-2008, 05:55 AM
I don't know German but I figured out you also told about the shoot through......forgot about that!

bfisher
05-30-2008, 09:17 AM
Being from Germany I find your English better than many Americans post on forums. Your spelling is off a little, but at least you use some puncuation so there are sentences.

I won't add anything about the Mystic. If Monty said anything about the X system then he probably has it covered fairly well.

Montalaar
05-30-2008, 09:52 AM
Yepp, said something about it but i may add something. ;)

Das Shootthrough/X-System erlaubt dir bei Nitrous-Cams (die nicht mehr produziert werden) und Furious-Cams ohne jeglichen Kabelgleiter zu schießen. Kein Cam-lean, gleiches bei den Wurfarmen. Eigentlich eine sehr geniale Idee, kostet natürlich auch noch extra, abgesehen davon das die Kosten für Ersatzkabel sich verdoppeln. Ansich aber eine sehr geniale Sache.

bfisher
05-30-2008, 10:41 AM
Yepp, said something about it but i may add something. ;)

Das Shootthrough/X-System erlaubt dir bei Nitrous-Cams (die nicht mehr produziert werden) und Furious-Cams ohne jeglichen Kabelgleiter zu schießen. Kein Cam-lean, gleiches bei den Wurfarmen. Eigentlich eine sehr geniale Idee, kostet natürlich auch noch extra, abgesehen davon das die Kosten für Ersatzkabel sich verdoppeln. Ansich aber eine sehr geniale Sache.

Yeah, so I'm supposed to know what you're saying!!!! Jut kidding. I think we've conversed enough for me to know you have some knowledge on the subject. Your English is much better than my German. In fact, your English might even be better than mine. LOL.

Have a nice day Monty.

flytier17
05-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Also, a camo dip is less expensive than the target finished.

An STS adds $25 to it, at least at my local shop.

Not sure if Monty covered it or not, I am getting a headache looking at his posts....:D

bfisher
05-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Also, a camo dip is less expensive than the target finished.

An STS adds $25 to it, at least at my local shop.

Not sure if Monty covered it or not, I am getting a headache looking at his posts....:D


Where you been hiding? Shooting that Pantera yet?

Montalaar
05-31-2008, 02:22 AM
Covered it. Beside the STS.

An STS is priced at 49€ - 59€ (around 78$-94$) in Germany and in most cases you have to import it from the usa and pay for shipping and taxes so you end up with 60 oder 70€.

dbd870
05-31-2008, 04:53 AM
An STS is priced at 49€ - 59€ (around 78$-94$) in Germany and in most cases you have to import it from the usa and pay for shipping and taxes so you end up with 60 oder 70€.


:eek: Ouch! :eek:

flytier17
05-31-2008, 06:47 AM
Where you been hiding? Shooting that Pantera yet?

Nah, workin'. Up at 4, working by 5, home at 8, asleep by 9, 6 days a week. So tired, I just look at a couple posts, tie some flies for my customers (not for myself, i have no time to fish these days. Took the last couple saturdays off to turkey hunt. Had an AWESOME hunt the other day. Stalked 3 toms over 600yds up hills, in woods, and over open fields. Was only 70-100yds behind them the whole time. Wouldn't come to calling; gobbled but no coming in, so I followed them. Almost took a head shot at 8 yds but he bobbed it too fast. Arrow grazed his skin, and they took off.

flytier17
05-31-2008, 06:55 AM
Shot the Pantera a couple times. Don't have the FatBoys yet, so no point trying to set it up. I am putting a Hogg-It with 7 pins, 0.010" fibers, and an 8" extention on it, a doinker Carbon Elite 11.5" stabilizer, a GKF Platinum Premier, and prostrings on it. I will be fletching with 2.7" Flex-Fletck, or 2.25" Quickspins. Don't go by my sig, outdated kinda.

Want to powdercoat the riser. Thinking it would be orange. Back limbs, black accessories, orange and black strings, etc...

HOWEVER, I do know how much you hate orange, and I don't think you would like to see your bow defiled like that, so since my mind isn't made up completely, see if you can change it. Just no black, I might be getting a S4 Mag NOS X B in platinum black with silver accessories... And if you suggest pink and purple, I will floot your inbox with pictured of my orange Pantera. :D

bfisher
05-31-2008, 03:16 PM
How about a Lavender riser with Pink and purple strings. That would be a standout and certainly better than orange.

Hey, I know about the heavy work schedule thing. When I was your age (maybe) I worked an average of 63 hours a week and as many as 84 hours sometimes. I think the most I ever worked in a week was 114 hours---ouch. Big paychecks though. And with the extra money I started investing in the stock market insterad of buying a bigger house and new cars all the time. That's what helped me retire at 55 and be able to be a world traveler and scuba diver. With what money was left I put two kids through college somehow.

And just like you I found that the house repairs and lawn mowing still needed done, along with all those other manly responsibilities. Now everything is paid for, the kids are gone, the wife is working full time and I have my hobbies to pursue. Life is getting gooder.

Pink and purple is the real deal. I'm telling ya.

Montalaar
05-31-2008, 04:12 PM
Get me a bow for free and i will do you the favor and paint it pink and keep it to shoot it. :P

flytier17
05-31-2008, 09:13 PM
Great idea monty!

Bfisher: Pay for my powdercoat, I will do whatever colour you want! I kid you not!

Just curious, what did orange ever do to you? Associated with bad memories perhaps? A bad childhood, filled with orange monsters?

Montalaar
06-01-2008, 02:43 AM
Do you remember the orange/red risers back in 2004? I have seen two of them for resale at a local Hoyt pro shop (for 350€ (~550$) each! That is nearly the same i paid for my new 06-Razor with guarantee and so on) and was just fascinated. What a color!

I wished i had enough money to get a second bow. I would love to get it in black with red black ghost flames on it.

bfisher
06-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Alec,

You keep begging but I ain't biting. YOu got the bow for a song as it is. Just kidding.

The orange is just something I dislike. It has nothing to do with bows or strings. I quit hunting with a rifle here in Pa 18 years ago due to the crowds in the woods, often referred to as the orange army (fl. orange required) The estimate used to be about 1 million deer hunters in the woods opening day. Well, one day I just got the ass of all the people and decided the best way to get away from the "orange army" was to quit rifle hunting.

As a hunter I think you have some knowledge of how effctive fl. orange can be during turkey season. Pa. seems to have it's major share of meat hunters and have to shoot a few of themselves off each year so the powers that be have these rules about wearing fl. orange while moving around and having a nice orange band around your tree when spring turkey is in. All this because some people have to shoot at movement or even sound. Now consider that spring gobbler is shotgun only. Considering that the bird has to have a beard just how can people shoot people in mistake for a turkey? DUH.

OK, enough about the orange thing. You get that bow any way you want. You know I was just razzin ya.

Hey, look who chimed in. Good ole Simon (AKA Monty). He's a worse beggar than you are. He wants a freebie yet.