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plemdog
08-19-2008, 09:15 AM
I was going to reply to one of the other threads, but it wouldn't let me.

I just purchased a slightly used 2008 Martin Slayer on Ebay. It seems to be shooting fine and I am in the process of fine tuning it. One thing that bothers me a little is how much the limbs show when they are tightened down all the way. On my magcat, the ends of limbs by the nut would not be visible at all after tightening them down. On my Slayer, almost all of the end of the limb is visible. What's worse is that they are not equally visible.

I've measured the tiller and they are very close. The limbs say 3H on them. Here's a link to some pictures of my bow: http://picasaweb.google.com/plemmons/2008MartinSlayerExtremePro

Thanks,

STeve

logtamelk
08-19-2008, 10:06 AM
I was just bidding on a used 08' Slayer on Ebay about 2 weeks ago and got sniped with 4 seconds to go on the bidding, man my heart was racing and I was pissed!!

I think the winning bid was $361. Was that you? It was a camoflauged 08' model 45-60lbs.

Oooh!! I think it was you, I just looked at the pictures of your bow!! I hope you feel an imense guilt trip every single time you pull that bow back. That bow was going to be a gift for a terminaly ill little boy that I know!!!

Anyway I hope you enjoy the bow and let me know how it shoots. If that is the same bow, you got it at a good price (and I thought that I was going to get it at a good price!)

You do know that I was joking about the terminaly ill little boy but you still will be my enemy for life!!

Oh Yeah, are there any spots on your riser where the aluminum is cut out that is not painted camoflauge? I noticed this on the 08' Slayer that my Martin dealer has.

plemdog
08-20-2008, 06:28 AM
Small world, although it makes sense that you would be on here. It sounds like we were, in fact, bidding on the same bow. I won't rub it in too much, but I did get the bow for a great price. It shoots really nice. It's a little heavier than my last bow and that will take some getting used to.

There was another guy selling a #70 on craigs list for about $600. If you are interested, I could try to point you at the posting.

plemdog
08-20-2008, 06:29 AM
There are no spots on the riser that are not painted in camo.

bfisher
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
I was just bidding on a used 08' Slayer on Ebay about 2 weeks ago and got sniped with 4 seconds to go on the bidding, man my heart was racing and I was pissed!!

I think the winning bid was $361. Was that you? It was a camoflauged 08' model 45-60lbs.

Oooh!! I think it was you, I just looked at the pictures of your bow!! I hope you feel an imense guilt trip every single time you pull that bow back. That bow was going to be a gift for a terminaly ill little boy that I know!!!

Anyway I hope you enjoy the bow and let me know how it shoots. If that is the same bow, you got it at a good price (and I thought that I was going to get it at a good price!)

You do know that I was joking about the terminaly ill little boy but you still will be my enemy for life!!

Oh Yeah, are there any spots on your riser where the aluminum is cut out that is not painted camoflauge? I noticed this on the 08' Slayer that my Martin dealer has.

I took a look at your pictures. Thankyou for that. They are good and detailed. Are you sure the limb bolts are bottomed out? The limbs should fit deeper into the pockets.

Couple things come to mind. Possible the limb bolts are too long (somebody changed them?) and they are bottoming out in the riser. Second thought- maybe the riser wasn't drilled out deep enough in the first place ( I have doubts about this).

Any way you can measure anything? Like from the bottom of the limb pocket where it meets the riser to the head of the limb bolt? Eyeball it close. Then disassemble the bow and put the limb bolt back in. Run it in till it bottoms and measure again. Compare the two.

Pay attention to how many turns it takes to aleviate the pressure from the limbs. Maybe shorter limb bolts will work.

logtamelk
08-20-2008, 05:39 PM
Yes it is a small world afterall!! Thanks for the answer about the paint job; I did think the one I looked at had a poor paint job. I do want a 70# and not a 60# but that deal was too good to pass on. I'll hold off on the craig's list guy; probably trade my P3 in to my dealer and get one from him or hold out until 09'.

bfisher
08-20-2008, 11:06 PM
I can't believe how stupid I can be sometimes. There's a quick and easy way to bottom those limbs. It won't be all that pretty, but it will work. Just put a couple 3/8" spacers under the ones already on the bow. You know. Those black washers between the limb and the head of the limb bolt. Maybe another set just like them from your dealer.

That doesn't halp with what appears to be the limb being tilted in the pocket though. Maybe you'll see something else when you remove the limbs. Mabe a limb rocker is out of position or something.

plemdog
08-21-2008, 09:34 AM
I took a look at your pictures. Thankyou for that. They are good and detailed. Are you sure the limb bolts are bottomed out? The limbs should fit deeper into the pockets.

Couple things come to mind. Possible the limb bolts are too long (somebody changed them?) and they are bottoming out in the riser. Second thought- maybe the riser wasn't drilled out deep enough in the first place ( I have doubts about this).

Any way you can measure anything? Like from the bottom of the limb pocket where it meets the riser to the head of the limb bolt? Eyeball it close. Then disassemble the bow and put the limb bolt back in. Run it in till it bottoms and measure again. Compare the two.

Pay attention to how many turns it takes to aleviate the pressure from the limbs. Maybe shorter limb bolts will work.

Well, if you think that the limbs should fit deeper into the pockets, I'm probably going to take it back to a dealer and have them take a look. I don't have a bow press and want to make sure that the string gets put back on correctly.

Does anyone else here have the 2008 60# slayer with the limbs tightened all the way down that could either post or send me pics to compare? I've been looking at pictures on the web, but most of them are not closeups of the area that I am concerned with.

plemdog
08-21-2008, 09:45 AM
Yes it is a small world afterall!! Thanks for the answer about the paint job; I did think the one I looked at had a poor paint job. I do want a 70# and not a 60# but that deal was too good to pass on. I'll hold off on the craig's list guy; probably trade my P3 in to my dealer and get one from him or hold out until 09'.

Yeah, I wanted the 70# too, but bought this one because of the price. What I'm finding though is that this bow is so much faster than my old bow even at 60# that it's not really a big deal. That and I will have easier draw and be able to hold draw longer in the stand.

Montalaar
08-21-2008, 10:33 AM
You may try this picture?

plemdog
08-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Thanks for the pic. I think that if you compare that to mine: http://picasaweb.google.com/plemmons/2008MartinSlayerExtremePro/photo#5236239407174155442, there is definitely something about mine that is not correct.

Montalaar
08-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Yepp.

The limbs on my RazorX look the same like yours. But my limb bolts are backed out around 3 turns. ;)

plemdog
08-22-2008, 07:21 PM
OK guys, I bought a cheap bow press and took my bow apart tonight. The reason that the limb would not tighten all the way down into the limb pocket is because there were two plastic washers on the limb bolt between the limb and the limb pocket.

Here are pictures of the bottom of my limb, the inside of the limb pocket, and the two washers.

http://picasaweb.google.com/plemmons/limbproblem

My inclination is to leave both of the washers out and tighten it back up, but I just want to make sure that it is OK to do this. Does anyone know if there is normally anything between the limb and limb pocket?

Thanks,

Steve

bfisher
08-22-2008, 09:58 PM
You can leave the washers out. They should not have been there in the first place. It did't come from the factory that way. I'll bet the previous owner put them in thinking he was cutting down on noise or something like that.

You put it back together without the washers and you should be good to go.

Montalaar
08-23-2008, 03:59 AM
Agreed with bfisher.

The previous owner could put them in because he has not shot the possible draw weight. It could have two effects. Ensuring that the limbs has always the right draw weight (also if limb bolts tightend) and to minimize vibration and noise from the limbs.

plemdog
08-23-2008, 04:38 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. The problem is definitely solved. The limbs look correct now when tightened all the way down after removing the plastic washers. It now has a peak draw weight of 66 lbs when tightened all the way down. I didn't have a scale to check it when the washers were in (I just bought one today), but judging by the amount of limb that was showing I'm guessing that it was 50 lbs max.

What a relief.

The crazy thing is how much harder it is to draw this bow compared to my MagCat (Jaguar). I had my MagCat tightened all the way down to 70 lbs and could draw it all day long with no problem. My shoulder is a little sore right now, but with the Slayer tightened all the way down to 66 lbs, I really have a hard time drawing it. These CAT cams are really aggressive!

Thanks again!

bfisher
08-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. The problem is definitely solved. The limbs look correct now when tightened all the way down after removing the plastic washers. It now has a peak draw weight of 66 lbs when tightened all the way down. I didn't have a scale to check it when the washers were in (I just bought one today), but judging by the amount of limb that was showing I'm guessing that it was 50 lbs max.

What a relief.

The crazy thing is how much harder it is to draw this bow compared to my MagCat (Jaguar). I had my MagCat tightened all the way down to 70 lbs and could draw it all day long with no problem. My shoulder is a little sore right now, but with the Slayer tightened all the way down to 66 lbs, I really have a hard time drawing it. These CAT cams are really aggressive!

Thanks again!

Sure ti's going to draw harder. That's the nature of all bows with speed cams. You want speed you have to work harder for it. But I'll tell you this. There will be a pretty significant speed increase.

All told, and just guestimating, your Slayer will give the same speed as the MagCat, but at about 10# less draw weight.

flytier17
08-24-2008, 07:06 PM
How did you get the Mossy Oak finish?

bfisher
08-25-2008, 07:26 AM
How did you get the Mossy Oak finish?

Alec, where you been hiding? Martin had Mossy Oak till only two years ago. Then they went to the APG.

plemdog
08-25-2008, 09:50 AM
It's not Mossy Oak, it's apg. I know on at least one of the pictures, you can see the "a" of apg.

KStigall
08-26-2008, 08:03 AM
OK guys, I bought a cheap bow press and took my bow apart tonight. The reason that the limb would not tighten all the way down into the limb pocket is because there were two plastic washers on the limb bolt between the limb and the limb pocket.

Here are pictures of the bottom of my limb, the inside of the limb pocket, and the two washers.

http://picasaweb.google.com/plemmons/limbproblem

My inclination is to leave both of the washers out and tighten it back up, but I just want to make sure that it is OK to do this. Does anyone know if there is normally anything between the limb and limb pocket?

Thanks,

Steve

Call Martin before removing the washers! I'm pretty sure the washers were put there by Martin for a reason! You may remove the washers and never have a problem or in a few hundred shots............................

Montalaar
08-26-2008, 08:18 AM
Hey KStigall.

Martin does not produce Washers like those and does not put them in their bows.