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nighttime
02-28-2009, 07:36 PM
well i hava a 08 slayer and had a winners choice string put on, now when i shoot it the rubber stopper fly off. it is as centered as i can get it should i put some glue on it??

JT38off
03-01-2009, 07:18 PM
mine did the same thing when i first got it. ive got an 09 moab and mine flew off 5 or 6 times and come to find out my sts was too short for my bow when i adjusted it the set screw fell into the riser so i called martin and they sent me the correct one and i havent had that prob. since!

bfisher
03-01-2009, 07:58 PM
I've heard of a couple of rubber bumpers coming off. I always recommend rubber cement.

I still haven't figured out how it can come off, though, with the string against it at rest and at the end of the stroke when the bow is shot.

stonecrusher
03-02-2009, 08:48 AM
I was always under the impression that the rubber bumper should be between 1/16" to 1/8" away from the string at rest. I have the 2009 MOAB and it has never fallen off.

bfisher
03-02-2009, 11:10 AM
Each bow setup can be a little different. Mine is right against the string at rest.

JT38off
03-02-2009, 07:43 PM
im really dissappointed in the metallic thump i have now that ive replaced my sts with a longer one, the one that came on my bow would not stay tight because the sts only stuck in the riser 1/4 ", and no matter how i adjust the new one it still has a loud thump. i currently dont have any limbsavers on but im definately gonna get some and we'll see what happens.

bowgramp59
03-02-2009, 09:02 PM
i put cat wiskers on my new moab they really help. but anytime you have something moving as fast as a bow strings moves and hits a solid object theres going to be a thump of some kind, you can't completly eliminate all the
noise. i have 2 other bows , a 08 moab and 08 bengal i made my own sts for them . i used some 3/8 alumnium stock and some soft spark plug boots trimed to the right size, i really think my bengal is quiter than both the moabs, all three are quite enough for me , i only hunt from a popup blind , it muffels some of the sound . i've watched some of those hunting shows on the outdoor chanell, some of those guy's bows sound like 22 rifels going off. i'm sure they are shooting 70 lbs. were i shoot 45 when i practice 52 when i hunt [shoulder problem]

flytier17
03-03-2009, 06:47 AM
Pop a little rubber cement or epoxy in there and you are good to go.

Be careful with cyanoarcrilate-based glues (crazy glue), as it can chemically desintegrate the rubber itself.

Alec

bfisher
03-03-2009, 09:21 AM
JT, why don't you just take the STS off and try it that way. You know, bows shot perfectly well for thousands of years without them. STS devices are relatively new and may be just a marketing gimmick that everybody is jumping on the bandwagon about. The main marketing thing is that no string silencers are needed so the bow gets more speed. The other is that it reduces or eliminates arm slap.

Hate to say it, but a pair of Cat whiskers could be more effective at reducing noise. And as far as arm slap is concerned this is usually a result of too long a draw and/or hand position on the bow, both of which can be adjusted.

You have a good thread going here. It's making me think and come up with ideas that I need to play around with on my own bow.

JT38off
03-03-2009, 07:20 PM
funny you mentioned taking it off. thatsn what i did today and there was no metallic thump but a horrible limb or string vibration sound, probably both and remember i dont have any limbsavers on yet which im sure will help. when i buy the limbsavers ill try shooting w/ and w/out the sts and see what works better and if i have to maybe some bowjax or string leeches. ive heard many people comment on how quiet the moabs are and ill get mine there its just gonna take some experimenting. thanks for all the input guys!

brushrat
03-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Don't overlook attachments! Rests, sights, quivers, etc. I had a metallic thump , turned out to be the sight. It is a micro-adjust sight and when you tighten the allen screws ,you need to snug up the knobs also (just enough to take the slack out ) ,cause they will make noise. ;)

Best way iv'e found is to hold bow in one hand and tap along the riser with the palm of your other hand. This will isolate the component that is the culprit.

Jake-the-snake
03-03-2009, 11:27 PM
A buddy of mine shoots a mathews drenalin:confused::confused::(, with no sts, and has a metallic thump as well, it may or may not be the sts, im thinking that its more in the ccs if you ask me, i dont have any problems with my sts, but i was just letting you know that Martin isnt the only company with this small problem...

slayer73
03-09-2009, 11:49 AM
What is the setting on the sts? is it supposed to be away or against the string? hold tension?

flytier17
03-09-2009, 03:35 PM
Play around with it. Use a light arrow so the noise will be exaggerated, so it is easy to tell the dfference.

Alec

JT38off
03-09-2009, 06:12 PM
hey guys, finally i put the limbsaver ultras on and shot this afternoon w/ the sts on and im really impressed. it fixed the problem. sounds the same or quieter as my buddies matthews dxt. i think just for the heck of it im gonna shoot it w/out the sts and see what happens. as of now there is no vibration on the handle and little sound so either way im happy!

bfisher
03-09-2009, 08:13 PM
Good news. Now I have to do that to mine. Problem is, it's in the middle of getting a new cam job. Making it a Nitrous X system. Still, the Limb Savers are needed anyway. I have the STS off it right now and plan to try it that way. AND, with the Nitrous cams there won't be a CCS on the riser either.

Stick Bow
03-10-2009, 06:42 PM
My 09 MOAB the rubber has flown off last week so it was cemented on and today while shooting I noticed the rubber has split. So are ya'll saying that the string should not rest on the STS? Mine does. Where do you find another STS pad? I like the one that comes on the Bowtechs they look alot more durable.

bfisher
03-10-2009, 07:44 PM
My 09 MOAB the rubber has flown off last week so it was cemented on and today while shooting I noticed the rubber has split. So are ya'll saying that the string should not rest on the STS? Mine does. Where do you find another STS pad? I like the one that comes on the Bowtechs they look alot more durable.

As long as it fits a 3/8" rod then it should work OK. In fact, I think they are all that way. Keystone Country Store has the Norway Brand.

For what it's worth I have mine adjusted touching the string at rest and I shoot light arrows. Something you can check is nock fit. If nocks are too tight then they will tend to hold onto the string making it want to over travel during the shot. Beeing truthful I'd bet that 75-80 of people have their nocks too tight. This causes inaccuracy, excess noise, and may be beating the heck out of your STS.

JT38off
03-10-2009, 08:03 PM
now im happy w/ my sts bumper and its adjusted to 1/16th of of the string at rest. ive tried it up against the string and further away and since adding the limbsaver ultras thats where ive found mine to work the best. but limbsaver offers a string decelerators as a whole but you can buy just the bumper which is v shaped for about 9.00. thats what ill go with if mine splits or i might get one anyway and see if there is a difference.

JT38off
03-10-2009, 08:18 PM
Good news. Now I have to do that to mine. Problem is, it's in the middle of getting a new cam job. Making it a Nitrous X system. Still, the Limb Savers are needed anyway. I have the STS off it right now and plan to try it that way. AND, with the Nitrous cams there won't be a CCS on the riser either.

wonder if changing the cams will add more vibration to the limbs? well i guess it depends on if the nitrous x cams are more aggressive than the mpro2 cams are. arent the moab limbs designed for the mpro2 cams. either way its amazing how something so simple and small {limbsaver ultras} can do wonders, it really is. id try shooting with and w/out the sts and see what happens. good luck on your cam change and thanks for all your advise.