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Dave308
03-23-2009, 07:02 PM
I cant seem to get the lean out of the wheel. No matter how much twist I put in it nothing changes. Any ideas?

Its an 08 Bengal

bfisher
03-23-2009, 08:26 PM
You need to put about 10-15 twists in the right hand branch of the yoke cable. Some people say a twist or two, but it takes a lot sometimes. If the yoke twists over itself don't worry about it.

razorjack
03-24-2009, 05:31 AM
You need to put about 10-15 twists in the right hand branch of the yoke cable. Some people say a twist or two, but it takes a lot sometimes. If the yoke twists over itself don't worry about it.

Yep he's right i had to put about 16 twist on mine to get it striaght.

Montalaar
03-24-2009, 08:18 AM
If possible remove the cables and check if one side of the yoke is longer than the other (without any twists in it). if so you can use the shorter one instead of adding more twists. If this does not help just add some twists. I am not so sure if twisting over itself is such a good idea.

bfisher
03-24-2009, 09:18 AM
If possible remove the cables and check if one side of the yoke is longer than the other (without any twists in it). if so you can use the shorter one instead of adding more twists. If this does not help just add some twists. I am not so sure if twisting over itself is such a good idea.


I don't mean to twist it over itself. Just that sometimes adding so many twists makes the whole cable rotate so the yoke make twist over itself a bit, but only a twist or two. There's still a lot of room for the cam to clear when it rolls over.

Good idea about checking the possible differene from one side to the other. There isn't a difference most of the time, but it doesn't hurt to check.

SandSquid
03-24-2009, 11:41 AM
Another thing you can do is remove the E-Clip on the end of the axle and take the black cable anchor off and flip it around or in-side to out-side. Effectively lengthening that cable and shortening the other without adding any twist to either.. Follow me?

gman57
03-24-2009, 11:45 AM
If you feel the right side is being twisted up too much you can also take a couple of twists out of the left side.

Dave308
03-24-2009, 04:08 PM
Thanks guys. I put a shim in it and twisted the crap out the right cable. Look good now:)

bfisher
03-24-2009, 05:48 PM
Another thing you can do is remove the E-Clip on the end of the axle and take the black cable anchor off and flip it around or in-side to out-side. Effectively lengthening that cable and shortening the other without adding any twist to either.. Follow me?

John,

That's really good info. I've done just that while playing around with X cams. Never thought about it for taking care of cam lean. Good thinking.

Barry

bwollard
08-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Is there any specific direction that the twists need to be made in?

Dave308
08-13-2009, 06:52 AM
More twist for shorter, untwist for longer.

tedmartin
08-16-2009, 12:57 AM
I don't have a bow press, how do i twist the yoke strings?and does this then alter all your other settings/acuracy?

Dave308
08-16-2009, 05:26 AM
Just back your limb bolts out evenly until the strings relax enough to where you can take off the cable end, then twist or untwist the cables, which ever is needed.

It will not effect any other settings.

bfisher
08-16-2009, 03:33 PM
I don't have a bow press, how do i twist the yoke strings?and does this then alter all your other settings/acuracy?

Here's an easy way to get started. This applies to a right handed bow. Measure the Axle to axle length on each side of the bow. Usually the limb will be twisted and the left side, as viewed from the back, will be shorter.

You then back out the limb bolts evenly, counting the number of turns. Also watch the bolt threads throu the barrel nut in the riser to make sure you don't back them clear out. When you see daylight through the nut you should be prettyclose to having enough slack to remove the yoke from the RIGHT side of the top limb.

Put about 5-7 twists in that branch of the yoke and reinstall it. Crank some weight back on the limbs and see if the lean is gone or has improved. Repeat as necessary. Sometimes it takes quite a few twists to get it straight. You can also take twists out of the left side branch, to help.

To check the cam alignment you can hold an arrow against the side of the idler wheel and down along the string. It should run parallel to the string or as close as you can get it.

It's trial and error. No set amount of twisting does the job. You just do what you have to do. The shorter the axle to axle length of the bow the more it takes.

The only change to your bow might be a slight shortening of the axle to axle length, and lengthening the draw length but it should be very slight. Also this will change the dynamic center of the bow so a slight adjustment of the rest's centershot may be necessary.

Overall you may not notice much of a change in performance, but the bow should shoot a little smoother and give better arrow flight and consistency. It may also tune just a bit easier.