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Jake-the-snake
04-09-2009, 07:03 AM
So my friend and i were shooting bow, and he has an '08 firecat, like me, well we were shooting and i didnt realize he forgot to nock an arrow, but by the time i noticed, he had shot, the bow made a very loud nosie, but nothing happened, the limbs did not break, nor the cams. that same day we took it to the local bow shop, and he went over the whole thing for a day, we got a call yesterday saying the bow was completely fine. The dealer said he pulled it back, and no foul noises, but of course he had his machine pull it back. he then shot it ten times without anything wrong. Well that day he called us, we went and picked the bow up, and its shooting perfectly fine, is this normal, or does this happen once in a million?

Desmond
04-09-2009, 07:12 AM
I add myself to be as lucky as your friend with my last two bows listed on my signature. I dry fired the Tracer one time and the PhantomII two times the same day :eek: and nothing happened. :cool: But I certainly MAKE SURE I have an arrow knocked on my SLAYER'S. :D So I guess we can say it happens four in a million! :D

Jake-the-snake
04-09-2009, 07:37 AM
what makes some bows blow up on the spot, and others just sit there perfectly fine, like it was shot with an arrow?, i guess this could be a testimony, that martins are the most well built and sturdy bows out there??:D

alex
04-09-2009, 09:58 AM
I've dryfired twice my MOAB, because of a bad nock, and thanks God, nothing happened.HOYT claims that AlphaMax can be dryshot 1000 times, but somehow i don't believe it. :D ....By the way,Jake, is your friends name Alter Ego? ;) Just kidding!

Jake-the-snake
04-09-2009, 10:14 AM
haha thanks,:D and i agree with you, alex, i dont believe there is a bow out there that can be dry fired 1000 times with no damage

bfisher
04-09-2009, 12:51 PM
haha thanks,:D and i agree with you, alex, i dont believe there is a bow out there that can be dry fired 1000 times with no damage

Oh, I don't know about that. I saw one once, dry-fired 5000 times, but I won't bore you with the details inless you want to hear them.

razorjack
04-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Oh, I don't know about that. I saw one once, dry-fired 5000 times, but I won't bore you with the details inless you want to hear them.

That depends on your definition of bored......;)

hunt123
04-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Oh, I don't know about that. I saw one once, dry-fired 5000 times, but I won't bore you with the details inless you want to hear them.
Do tell. I'm interested.

flytier17
04-09-2009, 04:53 PM
Oh, I don't know about that. I saw one once, dry-fired 5000 times, but I won't bore you with the details inless you want to hear them.

I've seen a HOYT Katera XL dryfired at 80lbs a dozen times in a row, and it was fine. It was a demonstration too. Didn't sound good, but te bow held up fine. They were using an unusually large string though, with added strands. Not sure it needed it, but they did.

Alec

bfisher
04-09-2009, 06:34 PM
Do tell. I'm interested.

All right, you asked for it. First I want to say that what I am going to say is 100% accurate to my knowledge.

The year was 1997 and the event was the ATA Show. XI Archery had a new type of limb technology that supposedly made their limbs almost indestructable. The Limbs were called Fusion Force and were on their upper end bows, most notably on the Nemisis.

XI had a bow mounted in a plexiglass box and a machine inside that held and drew a Nemisis over and over again and dry-fired it. The bow was set up at IBO specs. Every 1500 dry fires the bow was taken out and inspected and new string and cables put on it. The test kept on till the bow had 5000 shots on those limbs. Upon final inspection there was no apparent damage to the limbs.

Now, I had a Nemisis that year, my final year of shooting for XI, and can say that mine was a pretty nice bow. It's too bad a company that could come up with some new ideas like they did had to go under.

jbowers12
04-09-2009, 08:42 PM
One of my freinds had a cheap pse nova, I dry fired it the day he bought it. It slung the string off and broke the cable slide. My freind looked dishearted when he seen that. But i told him i would pay for damage if there was anything seriously wrong. All I done was bought him a cable slide and the pse dealer said it would be fine.

hunt123
04-10-2009, 07:49 AM
All right, you asked for it. First I want to say that what I am going to say is 100% accurate to my knowledge.

The year was 1997 and the event was the ATA Show. XI Archery had a new type of limb technology that supposedly made their limbs almost indestructable. The Limbs were called Fusion Force and were on their upper end bows, most notably on the Nemisis.

XI had a bow mounted in a plexiglass box and a machine inside that held and drew a Nemisis over and over again and dry-fired it. The bow was set up at IBO specs. Every 1500 dry fires the bow was taken out and inspected and new string and cables put on it. The test kept on till the bow had 5000 shots on those limbs. Upon final inspection there was no apparent damage to the limbs.

Now, I had a Nemisis that year, my final year of shooting for XI, and can say that mine was a pretty nice bow. It's too bad a company that could come up with some new ideas like they did had to go under.

Dang, that's awesome! Martin should acquire the rights to that technology!! Are you in a position where you can lean on them to do that?? :-)

bfisher
04-10-2009, 08:22 AM
Dang, that's awesome! Martin should acquire the rights to that technology!! Are you in a position where you can lean on them to do that?? :-)

Maybe you think I have more influence than I do. I'm just a lowly person. Way down the totem pole. If I could lean on anybody it would just be to keep me from falling over. Besides, I wouldn't think the technology would necessarily need to be purchased. XI has been out of business for lots of years.

flytier17
04-10-2009, 10:10 AM
I know a guy who is Martin Silver Staff, and used to shoot for Pearson and XI too (and Darton). Reminds me of someone, but I can't think who. Barry, help me out? He's been doing it 30 or so years too.

I've shot his XI Paragon, and it was a real shooter. I offered him (a lot of money) for the bow, and he turned it down. Says he'll never sell. Don't really blame him.

davydtune
04-10-2009, 12:55 PM
haha thanks,:D and i agree with you, alex, i dont believe there is a bow out there that can be dry fired 1000 times with no damage

Actually it can. All of Hoyts bows have been put to that exact test for many years now.

hunt123
04-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Maybe you think I have more influence than I do. I'm just a lowly person. Way down the totem pole. If I could lean on anybody it would just be to keep me from falling over. Besides, I wouldn't think the technology would necessarily need to be purchased. XI has been out of business for lots of years.
Well then, maybe they could get an XI bow and learn how to make limbs like that. Or get hold of the designer and hire him as a consultant. Even this many years later, there aren't any bows that will take that kind of abuse.