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tuneman
07-09-2009, 03:59 AM
i just got my new 09 moab and hopefully i will have time this weekend to set it up properly but for the moment i have it shooting ok with a copper john scardy cat.

do the strings normally do this? are they just not good quality or do they need twisting a bit, once the two loose strands dropped down between the ccs rollers :confused:

also are they supposed to come with draw stops? it has slots for them but there wasn't any with the bow, i dont need them but i was curious

Stick Bow
07-09-2009, 04:35 AM
Yes, suppose to have a draw stop. I'm not sure about the string. Is There enough tension on string. Can't understand how it could stay seperated like that.

dbd870
07-09-2009, 04:48 AM
I suppose it's personal preference but I would definitely make them get you a draw stop if nothing else if you sell the bow one day the next guy may really want it on there.

tuneman
07-09-2009, 07:40 AM
all the strands are tight except for those two,

bfisher
07-09-2009, 08:06 AM
It appears that you are getting quite a bit of wear on the cable and string over the rollers. I would suggest serving it, as I did mine. Also where it rolls over the idler wheel. As for the two loose strands? Poor workmanship on Martin's part. It's possible the thing would stretch out over time and they'd all be even, but I'd also recommend contacting customer service to see if they'll send you a new one. In the meantime serve it.

bowgramp59
07-09-2009, 07:56 PM
i bought a new moab this year, and it came with a sts and yours should have to. i got mine from martins online store and couldn't be happier with it. those 2 strands could be broke under the serving somewhere. if the string stretches enough to take up that much slack your cam is going to be out time quite a bit. i would call customer service and get the sts and a new string

scepterman30x
07-09-2009, 09:39 PM
Mark your cam orientation then put about 35 twist in the string (as long as it is it will be hardly noticable) and then if you need to put any in the cable do that. It will compress the string strands and make the bow quieter since ideally the string and cable should be round as it rolls in or on the roller guard.

bfisher
07-09-2009, 09:44 PM
Mark your cam orientation then put about 35 twist in the string (as long as it is it will be hardly noticable) and then if you need to put any in the cable do that. It will compress the string strands and make the bow quieter since ideally the string and cable should be round as it rolls in or on the roller guard.

The more I look at it the more I agree. It looks like there is not enough twists in the string or the cable. The only thing you might have trouble with is that if the cable and string are too short when twisted enough then the bow specs will be off.

Specs are estimates of what the bow should measure in A2A and brace height. They don't have to be right on.

twindragon
07-10-2009, 01:06 PM
Ive noticed mine are doing the same thing and the bow is 2 weeks old. Same strings as my cheeta.

tuneman
07-13-2009, 03:15 AM
it dosent give a ata length in the specs but it says 90" for the string, ive put about 10 twists in the shooting string because all the strands were all seperate as they went over the cam.

what does twisting the string affect? does it just shorten the draw length? can i just put a lot of twists in it and put a longer draw modual on?,and what does twisting the y cable do? how does cam orientation effect my bow what should the orientation be?

im kinda new to doing this kind of stuff to my bow:o never had to worry about it on my old one!

i sent a message to martin about the string but havent got a reply yet

bfisher
07-13-2009, 07:07 AM
it dosent give a ata length in the specs but it says 90" for the string, ive put about 10 twists in the shooting string because all the strands were all seperate as they went over the cam.

what does twisting the string affect? does it just shorten the draw length? can i just put a lot of twists in it and put a longer draw modual on?,and what does twisting the y cable do? how does cam orientation effect my bow what should the orientation be?

im kinda new to doing this kind of stuff to my bow:o never had to worry about it on my old one!

i sent a message to martin about the string but havent got a reply yet

WOW, a lot of questions, but good ones. See if I can answer a couple.

Twisting the string has several advantages. It tightens the strands so they act more as a group. Think of a rope. Strands in a rope are twisted and woven together to make it act like a single unit.

Also, it makes the bow a little more quiet because the strand don't catch as much air when shot. If not twisted the string can "parachute", flare out when shot. This creates air resistance which makes noise and can slow the bow down; how much speed loss is pretty insignificant though.

Twisting just the string does decrease the draw length, which in turn lowers the draw weight. You can compensate for this some by also twisting the cable. Don't get acrried away with all this, though. When twisting the cable the weight goes up pretty quick--puts more preload on the limbs.

Ideally, if you look at most custom string you notice that they have one complete twist for every 1 1/2" of string length. As I said, this helps make the string more round, less air resistance, and the strands work together better as a unit. Doing so this helps stabilize the string which can eliminate string creep and peep rotation. A lot depends on how well the string is made in the first place.

When twisting string/cable pay some attention to the A2A and brace height, along with draw weight. Specs are close approximations of what the bow should be when everything is close. And close is all specs have to be. You still, ultimately, have to make the bow fit you. I don't think you want to twist things to the point of using a longer draw module. It's pretty extreme to reduce the draw by an inch by twisting.