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blutic
11-02-2009, 12:02 PM
I Have been using the martin jet rest that came with the bow and was wondering what would be a better rest. Also does rest need to be positioned away from riser do to arrow fletching coming in contact with riser.
thank you for help

Montalaar
11-02-2009, 12:31 PM
The rest on a recurve is always placed at the riser because of the archers paradox causing an arrow to flex arround the shelf.

blutic
11-02-2009, 12:49 PM
Im having problems withmy fletchings hitting my rest and the riser seems to be causing arrow not to fly straight do you have any ideas

Montalaar
11-02-2009, 11:54 PM
Do you shoot them with a correct spine? If your recurve arrows are overspined they will not bend around the shelf.

Another option would a plunger button be.

blutic
11-03-2009, 09:38 AM
Im using 30inch alumin carbon express arrows 2117. My bow has a 50 lb draw i think these are the right spined arrows according to the easton arrow chart at there web sight.

blutic
11-03-2009, 09:39 AM
On the other hand it seems like it may be the plastic vanes that hit the rest and riser should i use real feathers instead

Montalaar
11-03-2009, 09:53 AM
This will not change anything.

So you are shooting 30" arrows. Point weight? Effective draw length?

I just can recommend the use of a button. This will definately lead to bette results once it has been set up.

blutic
11-03-2009, 12:55 PM
Im sorry i forgot to say point weight is 100grains draw and 50lb draw and 29inch draw length. Also the jaguar bow use a compound bow riser center cut riser does that make difference in how rest should be set.

Montalaar
11-03-2009, 01:01 PM
In fact there could be a minimal difference. But - although i say it now for the third time - nothing you could not handle with a button. A button will move your arrow out to the left (if you are RH). The spring inside it will control the Archery paradox and Arrow flight. Just look at the 'better' recurve shooters. They have it all. It is one of the first things we recommend any recurve shooter here.

alex
11-03-2009, 01:14 PM
Simon, what is this magical button? I've seen a lot...really a lot of traditional archery vids on Youtube and never seen a button - is this something used in sports archery?

eldermike
11-03-2009, 01:19 PM
2117, way to stiff. You need feathers, vanes will kick on that type rest.

I suggest you try some 1916's (you can cut them to your draw length) with feathers (legacy arrows are a good choice). Adjust the rest out until you are just left of center, you might need more but it's a starting point.

The best way to find a starting point is hold the bow vertical with an arrow nocked and sitting on the rest. Line the riser up inline with a focus point in the distance. The blury arrow should be pointed slightly left of this alignment. Archers paradox will flex the arrow around the rest if the dynamic spine of the arrow is correct. If you shoot an arrow that;s to stiff you will find it very unforgiving of form and release changes. Proper spine and rest alignment will not totally forgive a bad release but it's better and closer to target than a to stiff arrow.

I like the martin springy rest. It's simple and it works.

blutic
11-03-2009, 01:19 PM
I dont mean to be so irritateing i am just real new to shooting a recurve bow have shot some long bows. What is the plunger you would recomend. Also is there any special atachment i need to install one on my bow.

Again Thank you very much for your help

Montalaar
11-03-2009, 01:34 PM
http://world-of-archery.com/Recurve/Recurve_Button.htm

Just have a look at it. The button will help you to set the bow up. It can move the arrow to the left of the string as it has been described by eldermike. You might consider to get one and set it up.

Plastic vanes are no problem with your arrows. Most people here shoot only plastic vanes on their recurve arrows. If it is set up properly you will have zero contact to the riser. :)

blutic
11-03-2009, 01:52 PM
Ill try the plunger button ill try anything that might make bow shoot better. Where did eldermike find 1916 arrow because all the easton charts say with my draw weight, length and recurve bow i should use at least a 2215 which is a medium weight and the 2117 im using now is on the heavy side for my setup. which be better size.

Montalaar
11-04-2009, 12:53 AM
That is a good question. I checked your specs with the easton chart and i think 2020 or 2215 would work also. But every alloy arrow will change its spine with every shot. That is not known in common but unfortunately true.

If you have enough money to spend i could recommend the beiter Button but i think a simple Cartel Button would really help you.

After installing it we can work on setting it up together.

blutic
11-04-2009, 12:16 PM
That sounds good the arrows you said is what i had seen to. Where can I purchase the cartel button. Is it known by another name. Also my bow has a slotted area where you mount the rest and the pressure buttons will i need special adapter for installing it.

blutic
11-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Montalaar after i purchase and install you said you could help me set it up how should i let you now i have it installed. I sure apperciate all the help and advice.

Montalaar
11-04-2009, 12:26 PM
You can buy that adapter from Martin. just make sure that you get the right one.

I only found the Cavalier Plunger Button (Take a look here: http://www.yeoldearcheryshoppe.com/cavalier-master-plunger-long-p-1684.html ). Every archery shop should be able to order one for a low price. The Cartel Button should cost around 15$.

Just for comparison:
A beiter Button would cost up to 100$!

blutic
11-04-2009, 12:36 PM
Thank you. Ill take a look at that site and at our local proshop to see what i can find. Will also contact martin to get right adapter piece.
:)

deanrm
11-06-2009, 07:43 AM
Follow Eldermike's advice above. You should be able to get your bow shooting half-way decent with the Jet rest. Just screw the rest out until the arrow is a little left of center.