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Nodak7mm
11-19-2009, 01:39 PM
Hi All,

Glad to find this site. I am an longtime Martin fan, however I have been out of the loop/shooting for the past 20 yrs. Holy smokes how things have changed!

My Martin background; I still own my 1989 Firecat M-44 (wheels) and I want to use it. Now there has been the old adage that limbs weaken and breakdown over time and this can be a real concern. Mine has been stored, not backed completely off/relaxed but at about 35 lbs. It has always been inside in a “controlled environment” and after an good visual inspection of components, I think it is in fine shooting shape. It was never abused or beat to begin with… It was a high end bow in its day, especially for a 25 yr old kid and I took care of it.

Now, I’d like to here from experienced Martin folk, of any concerns I should have and if there is any components that I could get if need be, such as cables or other riser fittings (sights & rests) that will fit it.

For example I want to get a new sight, but in order to get a new fangled sight, it appears that I would have to take off my cable guard bracket that contains the dovetail fitting that “old fashioned” sights used to attach in order to attach a new sight. I could be mistaken, but….. So I am thinking I’ll need a new cable guard that would screw into the handle fitting on the aft side of the riser.

In short, I would really like to use this old warrior and modernize it. It was a fantastic bow for me and by far, the best I have ever owned. Sure its slow compared to today’s new bows speeds, but I am a lot slower than I was 20 yrs ago too..

So do I still have a useable bow?

Any and all opinions welcomed. Thanks in advance.


Rod in Nodak

brushrat
11-21-2009, 07:55 PM
Hi All,

Glad to find this site. I am an longtime Martin fan, however I have been out of the loop/shooting for the past 20 yrs. Holy smokes how things have changed!

My Martin background; I still own my 1989 Firecat M-44 (wheels) and I want to use it. Now there has been the old adage that limbs weaken and breakdown over time and this can be a real concern. Mine has been stored, not backed completely off/relaxed but at about 35 lbs. It has always been inside in a “controlled environment” and after an good visual inspection of components, I think it is in fine shooting shape. It was never abused or beat to begin with… It was a high end bow in its day, especially for a 25 yr old kid and I took care of it.

Now, I’d like to here from experienced Martin folk, of any concerns I should have and if there is any components that I could get if need be, such as cables or other riser fittings (sights & rests) that will fit it.

For example I want to get a new sight, but in order to get a new fangled sight, it appears that I would have to take off my cable guard bracket that contains the dovetail fitting that “old fashioned” sights used to attach in order to attach a new sight. I could be mistaken, but….. So I am thinking I’ll need a new cable guard that would screw into the handle fitting on the aft side of the riser.

In short, I would really like to use this old warrior and modernize it. It was a fantastic bow for me and by far, the best I have ever owned. Sure its slow compared to today’s new bows speeds, but I am a lot slower than I was 20 yrs ago too..

So do I still have a useable bow?

Any and all opinions welcomed. Thanks in advance.


Rod in Nodak

hi...you have a nice bow and if you like it, i'd say go for it!. All the new rests and sights should work fine. THe whisker bisquit works good and a lot of the containment rests out there. I think even a dropaway would work, just serve it in well as those vinyl coated cables are slippery. Almost all the sights should work. I would get one with a round sight pin and at least 3 pins with fiber optic spools for visibility. Since the bow is getting fairly old, check the steel cables for broken strands (that is a biggy). Check the limbs over good and back the limb bolts out some then increase the draw weight a little at a time as you feel comfortable with. There is a post on page 2 of this forum called "prowler" , it is basically the exact information that you are requesting. Open it up and read all that for a little more insight. That is still a nice bow. With those "wheels" and longer axle length it made a nice acurate bow. Good luck and keep er goin!:):)

brushrat
11-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Hi All,

Glad to find this site. I am an longtime Martin fan, however I have been out of the loop/shooting for the past 20 yrs. Holy smokes how things have changed!

My Martin background; I still own my 1989 Firecat M-44 (wheels) and I want to use it. Now there has been the old adage that limbs weaken and breakdown over time and this can be a real concern. Mine has been stored, not backed completely off/relaxed but at about 35 lbs. It has always been inside in a “controlled environment” and after an good visual inspection of components, I think it is in fine shooting shape. It was never abused or beat to begin with… It was a high end bow in its day, especially for a 25 yr old kid and I took care of it.

Now, I’d like to here from experienced Martin folk, of any concerns I should have and if there is any components that I could get if need be, such as cables or other riser fittings (sights & rests) that will fit it.

For example I want to get a new sight, but in order to get a new fangled sight, it appears that I would have to take off my cable guard bracket that contains the dovetail fitting that “old fashioned” sights used to attach in order to attach a new sight. I could be mistaken, but….. So I am thinking I’ll need a new cable guard that would screw into the handle fitting on the aft side of the riser.

In short, I would really like to use this old warrior and modernize it. It was a fantastic bow for me and by far, the best I have ever owned. Sure its slow compared to today’s new bows speeds, but I am a lot slower than I was 20 yrs ago too..

So do I still have a useable bow?

Any and all opinions welcomed. Thanks in advance.


Rod in Nodak

north dakota ha? i was born and raised in aberdeen, so. dakota. I still miss the huntin back there. :)

Nodak7mm
11-23-2009, 04:52 AM
Thanks BrushRat,

Sounds encouraging and I certainly agree with you thinking, yep new string and very close inspection of the cables & limbs will be done. I am a tish overwhelmed by the new stuff. But hope to find a good hunting sight without breaking the bank, just gotta do my home work. Heck, I aint even used carbon arrows, may even try them. But only after I use up all my xx75's I still have.

Thanks alot for you comments and I hope you get back to see Aberdeen sometime. I know it took me 20 yrs to get back up here to my "homeland", due north about 200 miles....

Rod in Nodak

724wd
11-23-2009, 11:23 AM
tru-glo and toxonics are pretty reasonably priced multi-pin sights. i had a toxonics 3 pin, but switched to a tru-glo tool less 5 pin. under $80.

Nodak7mm
11-24-2009, 08:03 AM
724wd,

Thanks for the suggestions. My problem is that I have a dovetail sight mount that also mounts my cable guard. So I think I need to either by a sight that will mount using the dovetail or relocate the cable guard.

I dunno, do the new sights have enough lateral adjustment that would let me mount the sight to the exsisting bracket? Guess I gotta just go looking.....

Rod

724wd
11-24-2009, 09:36 AM
AH! sorry bout that Rod... i forgot this was an older bow. i have a bow very similar to yours in my basement. i was going to convert it, but ended up buying a newer bow.

as to the amount of lateral travel... i think if you took your bow in to a shop and mocked it up, that would give you the best idea.

good luck on your project!

heath

brushrat
11-24-2009, 09:41 AM
724wd,

Thanks for the suggestions. My problem is that I have a dovetail sight mount that also mounts my cable guard. So I think I need to either by a sight that will mount using the dovetail or relocate the cable guard.

I dunno, do the new sights have enough lateral adjustment that would let me mount the sight to the exsisting bracket? Guess I gotta just go looking.....

Rod

if i remember right,mine had two ribs that centered that dovetail on the cable guide bracket. I just unscrewed the dovetail from the bracket and ground a flat spot on the bracket big enough for the sight. With 2 longer screws you can position the new sight right over top of it, leaving your cable guide in place. The right sight setup will have 2 threaded screw holes on it to mount your quiver. You then should be good to go. :)

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