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Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-23-2009, 06:28 AM
I was just wondering who shot what for arrows and nocks. I have been shooting Goldtip Vapor Hunter arrows with GT nocks and inserts and 2in. vanes.
They have .006 straightness tolerance and a weight tolerance of +/- 2 grains per dozen. They make a perfect hunting arrow and are accurate.

bfisher
12-23-2009, 06:58 AM
I've shot many different types and spine of arrows over the years. Started with fiberglass, the got Easton 24SRTX aluminums. Soon graduated to XX75 and then to X7's. Played with Beman and Easton extruded carbons in the early 90's.

In 1995 I got Easton ACC 3-18 and two years later 3-28's. I still have at least half of each size left.

About 8 years ago I had some Blackhawk Vapor 23 Speeds for 3D and they were decent arrows. Also shot Beman ICS and Easton Litespeeds. In 2004-2006 I was a shooter for Gold Tip so shot some of their Ultralite Pro series of various spine defelctions.

Have never shot Carbon Express simply because they are too hard to pull from 3D targets. The only thing they really pull hard on is your wallet. Then again, I don't lose or bust up arrows much so a dozen of anything lasts me as long as ten years or more.

Now, all this rambling brings me to an answer to your question. For pure quality and accuracy I find the ACC's to be the better of all the arrows I've shot. This is due mainly to spine consistency. I could care less about straightness or weight tolerances so long as they are reasonable. Spine is where the accuracy comes from.

I do not consider cost an obstacle (to a point) when it comes to arrows. People will spend $800 on a new bow and then scrimp on the one item that delivers a broadhead or target point to it's intended mark. They get it all backwards.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-23-2009, 07:32 AM
The only cheap arrow I have ever shot was the Easton Explorer ($20 for six) from Dick's Sporting Goods. They weren't bad, but I like the Goldtip Vapor Hunter better.
I have also shot the Carbon Express Teminator Lite Hunter. I did notice that they were pretty acurate. As far as fletching goes, I only use 2 inch vanes.
They seem to be more accurate.

baerman
12-23-2009, 10:39 AM
Hello Hutch,
I've recently begun to shoot the Gold Tip arrows, after years of being an Easton fanatic. So far, the Gold Tip Hunters really fly straight. Their specs are outstanding and the pricing was more than fair. Give me three more months of testing, and I'll give you my eval on them.
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RogerSr
12-23-2009, 11:01 AM
I have also shot a lot of diffrent arrows over the years, but the last two or three years I've been shooting GT Ultralight Pro 500s and Victory X Ringer HV 1s for target and 3D,
and Radial X werve 100 for hunting.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-23-2009, 12:34 PM
The reason I got the Gold Tip arrows in the first place was for the price. I had done some research on arrows and pricing, and those arrows were perfect. I spent under $70 for a dozen at Sportsman's Guide. Here's the link to the arrows: http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=559080
I figured for hunting deer, they would be great. Now maybe next year I can get a deer.

Jake-the-snake
12-23-2009, 04:07 PM
Carbon Express Maxima 350's, like bfisher said, a bit more pricey, but for me they have lasted a long time, so it was worth the money

Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-23-2009, 05:53 PM
I have always liked the Maxima, but it was a little out of my price range when I was looking for arrows. If I ever switch arrows again, I would probably go back to Carbon Express.

SandSquid
12-23-2009, 06:33 PM
Victory NanoForce for EVERYTHING


600 spine w/ 100 grain point & feathers for traditional


400 spine w/ 120 grain point & FlexFletch FFP175 for spots and 3D


400 spine w/ outsert and 100 grain Bludgeoens & flexfletch FFP360 for bunnies & squirrels.

400 spine w/ outsert and 100 grain G5 Small Game Heads & flexfletch FFP360 for armadillo, possum, & feral cats

400 spine w/ outsert and 100 grain Magnus Stinger & flexfletch FFP360 for larger game

JohnnyThunder
12-23-2009, 07:21 PM
Since I started shooting back in the fall, I've tried about 15 different kinds of arrows. So far the ones that I like best fortunately are the least expensive - Red Head Carbon Fury 4560s from Bass Pro Shops. I think they are basically the same arrow as Carbon Express 4560s except rebranded for sale at Bass Pro.

They shoot beautifully with my Firecat at 60#.

drevilmike77
12-23-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm shooting Fat-boys 400 @ 28" with blazer Vans.

brushrat
12-24-2009, 02:35 PM
I was just wondering who shot what for arrows and nocks. I have been shooting Goldtip Vapor Hunter arrows with GT nocks and inserts and 2in. vanes.
They have .006 straightness tolerance and a weight tolerance of +/- 2 grains per dozen. They make a perfect hunting arrow and are accurate.

I shoot gold tip xt hunters 55-75 for 51# bengal. Half with 2" blazers and half with fobs. They all work p-e-r-r-r-f-e-c_t. :):)

golfisserious
12-26-2009, 05:39 PM
I was shooting an 87#darton with 25% letoff with easton fmj 300's at 32.5 inches each... the bow was litterally starting to sound like it was going to come apart even with new strings... so I bought an 05 orion magnum martin... and am for the time being breaking it in with xx75 aluminums... which I haven't shot for about 10 years... and am actually impressed... i do have some more fmj eastons on order for this summer practice and next years hunting... but I plan on killing another whitetail this week with the alummys... just for the heck of it... I do like the penetration of "block" target better with the fmj's with 100gr heads versus the xx75s with 100gr heads... I put some 125 on the xx75s today and it gets better penetration...

Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-26-2009, 06:29 PM
I was shooting an 87#darton with 25% letoff with easton fmj 300's at 32.5 inches each... the bow was litterally starting to sound like it was going to come apart even with new strings... so I bought an 05 orion magnum martin... and am for the time being breaking it in with xx75 aluminums... which I haven't shot for about 10 years... and am actually impressed... i do have some more fmj eastons on order for this summer practice and next years hunting... but I plan on killing another whitetail this week with the alummys... just for the heck of it... I do like the penetration of "block" target better with the fmj's with 100gr heads versus the xx75s with 100gr heads... I put some 125 on the xx75s today and it gets better penetration...

I have nothing against aluminum, but have always liked the speed of a carbon arrow.

golfisserious
12-26-2009, 07:10 PM
I used to worry about speed... I am a golfer... then I realized the better contact I made, the farther the ball went... I have found the same thing in archery... I would rather have a heavier arrow and give up speed, for PENETRATION...speed is important... but only in relationship to how much you can load on it till you reach diminishing returns...

my 2 cents anyway

and it really aint mine... I know a traditional archer shooting 820grains at 130 fps but he always fills his tags... bear, whitetail, dahl ram, mully, and turkey this year he has filled, and thats all he hunted... it has been making me reconsider speed versus weight... Kinetic energy is much more important for taking game... 3d doesn't care if you penetrate... just hit the ring...

Hutch~n~Son Archery
12-27-2009, 04:48 AM
I used to worry about speed... I am a golfer... then I realized the better contact I made, the farther the ball went... I have found the same thing in archery... I would rather have a heavier arrow and give up speed, for PENETRATION...speed is important... but only in relationship to how much you can load on it till you reach diminishing returns...

my 2 cents anyway

and it really aint mine... I know a traditional archer shooting 820grains at 130 fps but he always fills his tags... bear, whitetail, dahl ram, mully, and turkey this year he has filled, and thats all he hunted... it has been making me reconsider speed versus weight... Kinetic energy is much more important for taking game... 3d doesn't care if you penetrate... just hit the ring...

I agree with you. I'm not a speed nut either. My bow shoots a max IBO speed of 310 fps but with my shorter draw length I am doing less than that. Even at that speed, a carbon arrow will go right through a deer, with the exception of a bone hit.

timtim146
12-27-2009, 07:36 AM
They have been discontinued but i like the carbon express cx series arrows. I shoot the cx 300s. The maximas are what took their spot but they are great arrows. Im sure you could find plenty of them om ebay.

ezbite
12-27-2009, 07:33 PM
I started this year with gold tip 5575 expedition hunters w/4" vanes. Shooting groups of 6 arrows at 20 yards that I could get my hand around them all with my thumb and index finger touching. Found some carbon express 250 maximas on eBay for a great price, got them fletched with 2" blazers and they shot pretty good, not as good as the gold tips. So I ended up stripping off the 4" vanes off my gold tips and put 2" blazers on them, DUH!! Think I made a mistake. Haven't been able to duplicate those first gold tip groups. Thnk I'm gong to put my 4" back on the gold tips and glue a few on the carbon express just for the heck of it. I have read a lot of great things about eastons ACC and a 6 pack is comming before spring.

golfisserious
12-27-2009, 10:53 PM
I started this year with gold tip 5575 expedition hunters w/4" vanes. Shooting groups of 6 arrows at 20 yards that I could get my hand around them all with my thumb and index finger touching. Found some carbon express 250 maximas on eBay for a great price, got them fletched with 2" blazers and they shot pretty good, not as good as the gold tips. So I ended up stripping off the 4" vanes off my gold tips and put 2" blazers on them, DUH!! Think I made a mistake. Haven't been able to duplicate those first gold tip groups. Thnk I'm gong to put my 4" back on the gold tips and glue a few on the carbon express just for the heck of it. I have read a lot of great things about eastons ACC and a 6 pack is comming before spring.

if you think you were getting good groups with four inch vanes, try 4 inch feathers.. or better yet 6 inch feathers... I know a guy in kansas that can custom cut whatever you want... but feathers are even faster at stabilizing an arrow and getting better groups... have you ever tried a right hand twist on your vanes when installing them...if not you should...especially if you are shooting a drop away... you will be impressed... for hunting, I like mine straight... I worry that the twisting will decrease kinetic energy at impact by trying to twist through a rib bone rather than slicing straight through... but I know a lot of guys that hunt twist fletch... most of them are traditional guys shooting two blade broadheads though

RLW
12-28-2009, 06:40 AM
For the last several years, with my '96 Firecat, I have been shooting Beman ICS Hunter 340 or ICS Camo Hunter 400, both w/3-4" AEE vanes, right helical fletch, Eastman Super nock.....mostly the 340.

When I got my '09 Bengal 3mths ago, I found my ICSH 340 shot very well out of it too.
I did just get a doz PSE Carbon Force STL Hunter 300 to see how they work, but haven't had a chance to test them yet......also w/3-4" right helical fletch vanes (PSE nock?)

PLAYER
12-28-2009, 09:04 PM
I've been shooting Easton Aluminum arrows for 50 years. My
choice is X7 and XX78 in 2212. My set up w/100 grain points/BHs
and 27" arrows comes in around 370gr. Bow weight 61#. I don't know my speed but they're fast enough for me. I own my on arrow saw and fletch my own arrows so I buy shafts only. I like Blazers and I mini-blazers at foam and hunt with the 2" ones. Its all good!
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golfisserious
12-31-2009, 01:46 PM
I started this year with gold tip 5575 expedition hunters w/4" vanes. Shooting groups of 6 arrows at 20 yards that I could get my hand around them all with my thumb and index finger touching. Found some carbon express 250 maximas on eBay for a great price, got them fletched with 2" blazers and they shot pretty good, not as good as the gold tips. So I ended up stripping off the 4" vanes off my gold tips and put 2" blazers on them, DUH!! Think I made a mistake. Haven't been able to duplicate those first gold tip groups. Thnk I'm gong to put my 4" back on the gold tips and glue a few on the carbon express just for the heck of it. I have read a lot of great things about eastons ACC and a 6 pack is comming before spring.

you might try cock vane up... I bought some flatline 300's D.O.A.'s the other day by easton, with the the 2in blazers...they shoot great out to about 40yds... I don't have room at my place to shoot farther...I did paper tune first...had to adjust the rest about 1/32" down and away from riser... best paper tune I have ever gotten out of an arrow.