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Rangerj
10-14-2010, 01:15 PM
Just looked at the 2011 catalog and did not see the CCS on any of the new bows.Has Martin done away with the rollers and back to cable slide?

MartinTech
10-14-2010, 01:41 PM
Look on Page 1 of the catalog it explans all about the TRG. With the TRG and the new NITRO cam working togther provide a new technology for Martin. The TRG allows the cables to move inward during the draw cycle and then moves out on the shot. By doing this there is minimal cam lean. A straighter cam equals better accurcy. check out a 2011 Martin bow with the Torque Reducing Guard today!!!!! Vince

Montalaar
10-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Hey Vince, may i ask a question regarding the TRG...

There is one screw at the base of the TRG where it connects to the carbon rod. Does this screw fit into the carbon rod or how does this work? I am just interested. :)

Spiker
10-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Looks like it would be rather flimsy and susceptible to movement but - maybe not.
I like the idea but think it should just be a direct mount bracket like the CCS. Haven't seen one live yet tho, so ...

Destroyer
10-14-2010, 07:27 PM
My only concern with the TRG is wear on the cables, that and the new mount.


it should just be a direct mount bracket like the CCS.

Yep, would have been better to use the same mount so we could update to the new TRG. Pity. :(

C Bailey
10-19-2010, 01:28 PM
My only concern with the TRG is wear on the cables, that and the new mount.


Technically, the wear on the cables should be less than a standard cable guard, right? The angle of the guard would reduce the sideways pressure on the cable, and thus the wear.

My question is can the TRG be used on older bows, like an '08 Slayer that still has the straight carbon rod?

SonnyThomas
10-19-2010, 03:29 PM
Some years back there was the spring type guide rod - whether intentional or not. The cables were held out with bow at rest and when fully drawn the guide flexed so the cables were nearly straight. Here, the biggest problem was people turning the guide rod so the fletching cleared the cables when fully drawn, thus, exerting unnecessary pressure - cam lean, string wear. I guess people thought the guide rod wouldn't spring back soon enough the fletchings to clear.

SonnyThomas
10-19-2010, 03:49 PM
I just took a look at the Shadowcat and TRG. The 2010 Shadowcat has a adjustable offset guide rod. The 2011 doesn't, by the pic anyway. So is the TRG a add-on and can it be adjusted?

MartinTech
10-20-2010, 09:06 AM
THE 2010 SHADOW CAT HAS A STRAIGHT CARBON ROD, NOT AN ADJUSTABLE ROD. The TRG does not need to be adjusted. YOu could adjust it in and out if you had to. The TRG is designed to work with the 2011 Nitro cams as well as ALL single cam configurations, So if u have an Late model Martin single cam bow you can shoot a TRG. So far cable wear has not been an issue, the TRG is made simular to a cable slide. SHoot Straight

Spiker
10-20-2010, 09:57 AM
If it fits onto a 3/8" rod - then it seems that you could configure the rod and the TRG to any possible setup...

FireHawk Owner
10-20-2010, 10:31 AM
Is any other bow company using a TRG system? Or Is this the first thats been made.

Whats the benifit of TRG?

Joan@Martin
10-20-2010, 10:51 AM
My question is can the TRG be used on older bows, like an '08 Slayer that still has the straight carbon rod?


It is advertised as only to use on 2011 bows.

SonnyThomas
10-20-2010, 12:00 PM
THE 2010 SHADOW CAT HAS A STRAIGHT CARBON ROD, NOT AN ADJUSTABLE ROD.

Well, both 2010 Shadowcats I've shot had/has offset guide rods. First went back to the factory. If Martin hasn't melted it down I'd still buy the pure black cat.

SonnyThomas
10-21-2010, 06:08 AM
Pretty neat, not to respond, but remove reply captured in mine. Still, I didn't see the hunting version of the Shadowcat and it may have come with a straight carbon rod. And, the offset guide rod is available, see back of 2011 catalog.

Montalaar
10-21-2010, 08:41 AM
Yeah, mine two came with offset, too.

Rangerj
10-21-2010, 06:07 PM
I never have liked the cable guard rods on any bow I have owned.But I really like the CCS on the Martins, now they don't use them anymore,Just my luck.LOL

timtim146
10-21-2010, 07:44 PM
well i think if this trg works like its supposed to then it will make for a smooth shooting very accurate bow :)