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colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 10:09 AM
Ok well I have a martin bengl and I have been looking into this site for help full tips .well I have read the hole thing bt strings and as soon as season is over I will b puting a new one on and I was just wondering is there ny cams I coud get put on to make the bow faster with out puting new limbs on it?

FireHawk Owner
10-20-2010, 10:27 AM
What speeds are you at now?
Is your Draw weight Maxed out.

I don't think there is a different cam set, that will give you any more speed.
You would probably have to change the Limbs if there is, and the cost would not be worth it.

Maybe you could try a lighter arrow to get more speed.

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 11:52 AM
I am shooting a 244 and my draw weight is 65 and drw is 29 and my arow weight is 365

Brem
10-20-2010, 12:07 PM
Something doesnt add up, at those specs you should be in the 280's.

Is the bow in spec? ATA and BH

Is your string loaded down(tube peep, loop, silencers?)

duey1977
10-20-2010, 12:22 PM
im new to the archery thing, but from what ive seen on arrow charts shouldnt
he be shooting a arrow weight of 400. just wondering.

FireHawk Owner
10-20-2010, 12:45 PM
im new to the archery thing, but from what ive seen on arrow charts shouldnt
he be shooting a arrow weight of 400. just wondering.
He can shot a 325 grain arrow at 65# DW.
At 70# he can shot a 350 grain
5 gn per 1lb of Draw weight

When you said 400 That is correct but, they are not talking about weight of the arrow.They are talking about the spine of a arrow.[ how much it flexes the arrow has. ]

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 02:04 PM
I have a loop and metta peep stock silencers and I don't think ny thing is wrong its brand new just bought it as last year model abt. Month ago it seems ike the cam is not inline with string and no one in my are is help "they re just salesman "but other than

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm new to the hoe thing is there any thing I could do to determan any problems with out knowing a hole bunch abt bows

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 03:09 PM
Welcome to archery! First thing measure your axle to axle (ata) it should be at spec. Then measure brace height (bh) the deepest point of the grip to the center of the string to see if that is at spec. If not those need to be, have them changed that will make a difference.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 03:31 PM
Also I missed one thing you wrote. Your cam is at an angle to the string. Lay an arrow down the string to see how far off the cam is. Then you need to twist the split buss cable on the high side to even it out.

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 03:58 PM
A2a is 32"1/4 bh is 7"1/4 and it needs to b 7 how do I fix this? And I also need a press to putt twist in the cabe to huh?

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 05:50 PM
It could be either cable or string or both. One or the both are twisted to much.
I found that my 2010 Bengal they both were twisted too much. You will need a press. Untwist the cable to the specs as close as you can. Untwist the string to the specs as close as you can. And remember to even out the cam lean. I did this with my bow I got all the specs with in reason and the dw, dl, A2a, and bh were perfect. Hope this helps.

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 05:56 PM
Thank you this helps I'll try to get it as close as I can....and also my shots really are not staying consistent with grouping

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 06:05 PM
If it is not a form issue in how you are shooting. Then I know that it is probably the cam. It is over or under clocked. And that will cause that issue. Once you get the bow properly set up, It will shoot the way it was made to.

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 06:11 PM
So to get the cam alined with the string will fix all of this

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 06:17 PM
So to get the cam alined with the string will fix all of this

Not always. If all the specs are right and you've adj the high side of the cable buss to straighten cam lean. You should be one your to happy shooting. Sometimes it takes a few times to get everything right.

FireHawk Owner
10-20-2010, 06:21 PM
I found that my 2010 Bengal they both were twisted too much. You will need a press. . Hutch n Son I thought that if you back the limb bolts out you should not need a press.

colbygosdin not sure about it so I would not try till he or someones thats sure about it chims in.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
10-20-2010, 06:26 PM
Yes on all my older bows I did this method. On the new ones I'm not sure.
Since I have a press. But that is a good point if it can be done that way it would help him. Thanks FireHawk Owner

colbygosdin
10-20-2010, 06:27 PM
Thank yall.....y'all have been a great help

elkslayer4x5
10-21-2010, 05:53 AM
A2a is 32"1/4 bh is 7"1/4 and it needs to b 7 how do I fix this? And I also need a press to putt twist in the cabe to huh?

You won't need a press to work on your bow. Back out the limb bolts until you can see daylight thru the barrel nut ( the round nut in the end of the riser ) at that point you'll be able to roll the string off the cams, once the string is off the cable comes off easily. When backing the limb bolts off, do so evenly, take a turn or two off one bolt then the same off the other. Reverse the process when finished with your string work. If you run into any trouble, come back here and we'll try to help. :)

RLW
10-21-2010, 06:09 AM
I am shooting a 244 and my draw weight is 65 and drw is 29 and my arrow weight is 365
Just for reference: My 2009 Bengal is also set at 65lbs and 29" DL. Has G5 meta-peep, cat whiskers and D-Loop on string, Sim Limbsaver ultra-quad on limbs
With my current arrow weight of 399grs, it has a 12 shot average speed of 274 fps.
I also have some 465 gr arrow that shoot at 260fps.

colbygosdin
10-21-2010, 10:46 AM
See that is wht I shold b shooting close to tht

RobD
10-21-2010, 10:56 AM
All you need to do is adjust your cam.

You don't need a bow press with your bow. Just back limb bolt out., till string starts to get loose. Then you can make your string adjustments..

colbygosdin
10-21-2010, 12:03 PM
Nd do this by twisting or untwistin the cable