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Louis
01-20-2011, 08:30 AM
Hello,

I am shooting an 09 Firecat with a Hostage pro rest. Is it better to have the rest set as far forward to the riser or further back (as far as forgiveness)? Also how good are the vane tec fetchings that come standard on the Gold tip arrows v.s the Blaser vanes?

archerx7
01-20-2011, 08:35 AM
Hello,

I am shooting an 09 Firecat with a Hostage pro rest. Is it better to have the rest set as far forward to the riser or further back (as far as forgiveness)? Also how good are the vane tec fetchings that come standard on the Gold tip arrows v.s the Blaser vanes?

Its normally considered better to have the rest as close to the riser as possable, thats part of the reason you don't see overdraws in use any longer.
Can't comment on the VaneTecs, never used them, I fletch mostly with blazers and AAE's and a few feathers.

elkslayer4x5
01-20-2011, 09:34 AM
Not sure which Vanetec you were refering to, but if comparing to a Bohning Blazer, did you mean the Vanetec's HP?
I've read where some people had adhesion trouble with Blazers, but I never did, mine stuck fine and are still shootable, even the one that went thru the last buck. I hunt with an X rigged bow, so vane clearence is a problem. So I did look at the Vanetec HP's. And will be using them on the next set of arrows. There are a few slight differences. Blazers are .6" high, Vanetec's are .5" Blazers weigh 6 grn each and the Vanetecs 5 grn each.
We just recently built the new hunters in our family new arrows, and used Gateway Rayzr's which are way lighter, but grab more air, and should stabilize the kids broadhead arrows better. Same height as the Vanetec HP's. Results aren't in as yet. Did I help or muddy the water? :D

Arrow Splitter
01-20-2011, 09:52 AM
Also how good are the vane tec fetchings that come standard on the Gold tip arrows v.s the Blaser vanes?

I have used vanetec HP vanes and found that they are very durable. In comparison with Blazer vanes, I would say that the Blazers are just a little tougher than the Vanetec HP's, but not by much. Both seem to fly the same and seem to stick well.

SonnyThomas
01-20-2011, 01:29 PM
Probably personal preference on my part, but there's just something about VanTecs I don't care for. I'll stay with Blazers.

Arrow rest, close or far. You'd probably have to do a lot of testing to prove the best accuracy. One of my most accurate 3D bows has the vanes laying between the prongs of the rest, that far away from the riser, if you could say far from the riser. Pictured is a 2000 Hoyt UltraTec with overdraw riser design. I'll put this bow up against any bow when it comes to accuracy. I de-tuned it (got the speed down - 275 fps) and used it to take 2nd place in Championship flight of Senior Adult Freestyle in the 2006 IAA State Field Championship. J.A. beat me by handful of points - Yes, he was shooting a Martin Scepter.
Vanes are 4" AAEs. End prongs to string measures 4 1/2".
Note; Sims cushions on guide rod - they kept the cable from hitting the rest - rod to cable is just short of 7/8".
Other; and my typical center serving - a little longer than usual - 4 3/4".
My 3D arrow for this bow was CX 200 with cut shaft length of 25 3/4" - Bohning 4" vanes with 90 gr field point. Bow set to 29" of draw, draw weight of 62 pounds. Brace height of this bow by the book is 6 5/8", but this figured by mulitple angle (Hoyt brain fart) - actual is 7 1/8".
I still have this bow, my Ole War Horse. I get it out from time to time.

Arrow Splitter
01-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Probably personal preference on my part, but there's just something about VanTecs I don't care for. I'll stay with Blazers.

I also prefer Blazers as well. As I said in my other post, the Vanetecs were not bad at all, but once again, personal preference.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Not to be fussy but some of the last blazers I bought, were different weights. Some 6 grn some 8 grn. Not that I would stop buying them. But you think a leading company like that would produce a them better.

Hutch

Louis
01-21-2011, 09:57 AM
Ok, thanks for everyone's advise!