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parttimr
01-25-2011, 03:47 AM
OK guys, narrowed them down to start out with either the GT 5575 Expeditions or Beman ICS Bowhunter 400's. Only a $5 difference per dozen shafts the GT's being higher. Are the GT's the better way to go? Both are correct for my current set up. Thanks.

ElkSlayer
01-25-2011, 07:02 AM
well both are very close the GT is 8.8 gpi vrs the ICS @ 8.4 so for that $5 spot you get an extra .4 gpi makes a heaver arrow in the long run . thats all..both are made by good makers so its realy all it comes to is weight. and if you may or may not be getting insert with them..unless you go the pre made route... hunting I would go with GT,s .. target go lighter then both thease :D

elkslayer4x5
01-25-2011, 11:12 AM
With your setup, 65 #'s @ 29", your bow can handle a little more arrow weight, unless you're a speed demon. Heavier arrows will make you bow quieter, and be harder to stop. I'd go with the GT's at 8.8 gpi, you'll get about a 423 grn arrow that should fly at 272 fps and hit with 69.6 KE. More than enough for anything walking around the North American continent! :cool:

Arrow Splitter
01-25-2011, 01:03 PM
With your setup, 65 #'s @ 29", your bow can handle a little more arrow weight, unless you're a speed demon. Heavier arrows will make you bow quieter, and be harder to stop. I'd go with the GT's at 8.8 gpi, you'll get about a 423 grn arrow that should fly at 272 fps and hit with 69.6 KE. More than enough for anything walking around the North American continent! :cool:

+1 I agree with elkslayer.:cool: My arrows weigh 424+ grains, my draw weight is 60lbs., and DL is 27.5 in., and I get approx. 237 fps with 53 ft. lbs. kinetic energy. The thing is, I only hunt white-tail deer, so talk about an over-kill!:D

ElkSlayer
01-25-2011, 03:10 PM
so talk about an over-kill!:D

No such thing my boy... I have enough KE to stop a charging rhino... so I figuar any bear that disagrees with my plan, after I attack wont realy have much to say, other then a moan or two :D My last blacktail went maybe 30 yards 10 of that was what It slid down the slope.:eek: thank you lord for putting that tree there..;)

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-25-2011, 03:25 PM
How do you get over kill. If it is dead it is dead!:D


Hutch:cool:

Ehunter
01-25-2011, 03:27 PM
Explosive broadheads? lol

ElkSlayer
01-25-2011, 03:33 PM
thought only rambo had thouse...:eek:

Arrow Splitter
01-25-2011, 03:39 PM
M2 Abrams Tank.LOL:D

parttimr
01-25-2011, 04:19 PM
Thanks for all the responses guys. Decided to go with the GT's. Whitetails and turkeys with max shot 35yds from the tree and 17yds from the blind so think I am good to go. Not a speed demon just want to get the best flight I can. Going from 2315's and 15 yr old bow anything today is like night and day to me, lol.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-25-2011, 04:23 PM
Glad the old timer is coming up to date.;)
Glad to have you aboard.

Hutch

parttimr
01-25-2011, 04:32 PM
I'm trying Hutch I'm trying, lol.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-25-2011, 04:42 PM
I'm trying Hutch I'm trying, lol.

Have you worn out you arm yet Bengal buddy.:rolleyes:

Hutch

ElkSlayer
01-25-2011, 05:23 PM
2315's and 15 yr old bow anything today is like night and day to me, lol.

hey now i have a 10 year ol bow that slings them logs @ bone crushing speed and KE, 94 to be exact w/ 525 gr arrow 280ish last it was checked. ;)

parttimr
01-25-2011, 05:56 PM
Not worn out yet Hutch this arrow decision has made me nuts and haven't ordered them yet. Just checked the GT chart and it says to use the 75/95's instead of the 55/75's it was so much easier shooting the "logs". I just hunt for gosh sakes, lol. Did find a site Expeditions $56 shipped and XT's $76 even more decisions.

ElkSlayer
01-25-2011, 08:54 PM
picking out a bunch of arrows can be taxing on a guy.. what is your bow set to for weight. DL, and what grain BH do you want to use..

parttimr
01-26-2011, 03:38 AM
@ elkslayer, 28dl, 65#, ST 100gr Mags, cut to 29". According to the GT chart 27" draw at 65# and that arrow length is last for 55/75's but am adding wraps so a little more weight for my possible set up.

Spiker
01-26-2011, 06:27 AM
Explosive broadheads? lol

Those work too... :eek:
http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechforum/picture.php?albumid=30&pictureid=300

Arrow Splitter
01-26-2011, 06:28 AM
Those work too... :eek:
http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechforum/picture.php?albumid=30&pictureid=300

What is it?:confused:

ElkSlayer
01-26-2011, 07:02 AM
nice flower petals spiker...what did you hit with it :eek: son in law smacked a steal plate (compresion system on hay bails) on target butt once looked sort of like that

ElkSlayer
01-26-2011, 07:13 AM
@ elkslayer, 28dl, 65#, ST 100gr Mags, cut to 29". According to the GT chart 27" draw at 65# and that arrow length is last for 55/75's but am adding wraps so a little more weight for my possible set up.

eastons shaft slector spits out 400 @ 62-66 lbs and a 340 for 66-72 so that means you are right at the top end for a 400 an bottom of 340..
I like to be on the top side so tweaking a arrow length can stiffen spine. both say the logs 2315's will work too..
http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/selection check this out i use it to compair every chart i look at... easy to swap #### around see what it spits out.. hope this help you out. Not every one can go buy alot of arrows to try so we have to hit it right on 1st try..or just live with what we get:(

elkslayer4x5
01-26-2011, 09:56 AM
Partimr,
Just to add another choice here, have you looked at Carbon Express Predators? In your spine, 6075, their chart, they weigh 9.7 gpi. Give you a 430+ grn arrow for $60 a doz. Thats the shaft I switching to from Beman ICS hunters. :D

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Partimr,
Just to add another choice here, have you looked at Carbon Express Predators? In your spine, 6075, their chart, they weigh 9.7 gpi. Give you a 430+ grn arrow for $60 a doz. Thats the shaft I switching to from Beman ICS hunters. :D

Great choice of arrows 4x5, Carbon Express Predators. I like carbon express. I use to get so many robin hoods with my carbon express arrows. Thats what I use for hunting. Black hawk vapor pros for target.

Hutch

Spiker
01-26-2011, 02:54 PM
nice flower petals spiker...what did you hit with it :eek: son in law smacked a steal plate (compresion system on hay bails) on target butt once looked sort of like that

That was a blasting cap glued into an emptied out .38 round with a BB superglued on the primer.

I didn't say that out loud did I .???

ElkSlayer
01-26-2011, 03:22 PM
I didn't say that out loud did I .???

Nope didn't here you say a thing ...lol :cool:
Kid's dont try this at home, we are professional's... :cool::cool:

parttimr
01-26-2011, 04:03 PM
ok there are to many elkslayers around here, lol to keep it straight so thanks to both of you for the input and I'll check out the Predators. I am one of those that needs to get it right since I can't keep buying numerous arrows, thus all the questions. As always thanks guys.

Arrow Splitter
01-26-2011, 05:09 PM
Kid's dont try this at home, we are professional's... :cool::cool:

Yep, professionally dangerous.LOL:D

Ehunter
01-26-2011, 06:23 PM
I did one kinda like that myself once. I stress ONCE. Shoved a primed 12 guage shell over a rubber blunt, taped a BB over the primer and shot an old brick wall. As I heard the arrow whistling by my head on it's way back past me, I realised that it probably wasn't a good idea. The shell apparently held together well enough to act like a gun barrell for arrow propulsion. Now I just tell others about it, and see if they try it. lol

elkslayer4x5
01-26-2011, 07:24 PM
ok there are to many elkslayers around here, lol to keep it straight so thanks to both of you for the input and I'll check out the Predators. I am one of those that needs to get it right since I can't keep buying numerous arrows, thus all the questions. As always thanks guys.

I'm the other one's dad, 4x5. the raghorn. Over on ArcheryTalk, he's Elkslayer6x5, there's a MrsElkslayer6x5 and an Elkslayer9x8. :)

Hutch~n~Son Archery
01-27-2011, 04:00 PM
I'm starting to think there is a lot of crazy people on here that have too much time on their hands. Next I think they will be putting a stick of dynamite on the end of the arrow and shoot it at the neighbors cat.

http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1536&stc=1&d=1296176762


Hutch

Ehunter
01-27-2011, 05:33 PM
Hutch, you need to realise, feline assassination needs to be stealthy. lol

elkslayer4x5
01-28-2011, 07:11 AM
I'm starting to think there is a lot of crazy people on here that have too much time on their hands. Next I think they will be putting a stick of dynamite on the end of the arrow and shoot it at the neighbors cat.

http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1536&stc=1&d=1296176762


Hutch

Nuh-uh. recurve and a rubber blunt, These Martin bows propel the arrow too fast and hard to shoot anything with a rubber blunt, First one I shoot out of my 63# Slayer, burried into the broadhead target 14'16 inches! :eek: