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cyclepath
03-17-2011, 08:06 PM
I think I'm spending to much time on the computer, but I can't stop looking for usless information. Came across a write up on speednocks. Are these things for real or just a scam to get people to spend their money. Well, yall know the drill, what's the real deal with these things? 5 fps sounds good but is it to good to be true? Let's here about em

Rockyhud
03-17-2011, 09:06 PM
They do work but there's some trial and error involved in getting the right amount of weight at each end of the string and in the right location.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
03-18-2011, 12:57 AM
They do work but there's some trial and error involved in getting the right amount of weight at each end of the string and in the right location.
x2 Rockyhud explained well.

Hutch:cool:

archerx7
03-18-2011, 04:10 AM
I think I'm spending to much time on the computer, but I can't stop looking for usless information. Came across a write up on speednocks. Are these things for real or just a scam to get people to spend their money. Well, yall know the drill, what's the real deal with these things? 5 fps sounds good but is it to good to be true? Let's here about em

Not a scam at all. They are worth 5-10fps depending on cam system etc... There placement is done by trial and error in front of a chrono. They are nothing more than brass crimp on nock sets covered in shrink tube. If you have access to a chrono, some brass nock sets and nock crimps.....you can do this yourself. Just be sure to put the shrink tube on after you get them in there final position.

MLN1963
03-18-2011, 04:55 AM
Archerx7

How much are they worth on bows with Nitro cams?

I noticed the fastest bow out there, PSE Omen has a lot of speed nocks. It looks like there are 2 then 3 then 2 more for a total of 7 on each end.

cyclepath
03-18-2011, 07:04 AM
OK, let me try to understand this. :confused: They are nothing more than brass nock points. So after trial and error you should get a few more fps. Can someone post a picture of these on their bow? How many of you have done this to your bow and got good results? What bow did you do it to?

archerx7
03-18-2011, 03:37 PM
Archerx7

How much are they worth on bows with Nitro cams?

I noticed the fastest bow out there, PSE Omen has a lot of speed nocks. It looks like there are 2 then 3 then 2 more for a total of 7 on each end.

Not real sure on the Nitro cams, as the Martins come with speed nocks from the factory and I haven't had the time to experiment with them yet. We did find by adding one extra at each end on the Alien X we picked up a couple more fps, also had to move the location of them slightly.


OK, let me try to understand this. :confused: They are nothing more than brass nock points. So after trial and error you should get a few more fps. Can someone post a picture of these on their bow? How many of you have done this to your bow and got good results? What bow did you do it to?

Yes, they are brass nock points covered with shrink wrap. The factory has them pretty close, but you may be able to gain a little more by experimenting with locations and quantities in front of a chrono. Just be sure to shrink wrap the new ones when finished. Saw a guy almost get hit in the eye by one that flew off and bounced off his top limb, because he didn't think the shrink wrap was needed after he had them in place.

SonnyThomas
03-18-2011, 04:00 PM
Yes, they work, but sure give your chronograph a working out. Worked on PSE just recently. Yep, sure a lot of speed noks, probably 7 on each end of the string.

MLN1963
03-19-2011, 08:48 AM
Here is a video I found on YouTube showing how to cover them. I like the built in bow press of his bow. How convenient!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTysmeQnp80&feature=player_embedded

cyclepath
03-19-2011, 09:26 AM
Very cool video. Seems like the shrink tube would slow the bow down. It would be cool if there is a video of someone setting up the bow with the speednocks. Hey, sounds like a good job for me! :)

alex
03-19-2011, 09:33 AM
Here is a video I found on YouTube showing how to cover them. I like the built in bow press of his bow. How convenient!

This is APA bow i think. I know this guy from YouTube - he has some pretty expensive bows and obviously can afford to work on them in unusual way :D I wouldn't step on a 1000+$ bow and then play so long with the cigarette lighter around it.

bfisher
03-19-2011, 11:40 AM
Very cool video. Seems like the shrink tube would slow the bow down. It would be cool if there is a video of someone setting up the bow with the speednocks. Hey, sounds like a good job for me! :)

Your not adding enough shrink tube to amount to anything and it's out near the cams so it doesn't slow the bow down. The shrink tube really isn't necssary anyway. If you install the nock points well they aren't coming off. I think the main purpose of the shrink tube is aesthetics anyway.

cyclepath
03-19-2011, 04:36 PM
Well, I spent hours combing the web and could not find a video to save my @$$. Seems to me that if this was such a great way to add fps that either a bow co. or a pro shop somewhere would have this online, if for no other reason than to show people what they could do for your bow if you brought it or sent it to them. At least show a couple bows with the before speednocks fps and after the speednocks speed. Anyone know someone or some place that does this stuff? Perhaps you could talk them into recording something. Just a thought.

MLN1963
03-19-2011, 06:05 PM
Well, I spent hours combing the web and could not find a video to save my @$$. Seems to me that if this was such a great way to add fps that either a bow co. or a pro shop somewhere would have this online, if for no other reason than to show people what they could do for your bow if you brought it or sent it to them. At least show a couple bows with the before speednocks fps and after the speednocks speed. Anyone know someone or some place that does this stuff? Perhaps you could talk them into recording something. Just a thought.

I'm sure some Pro Shops do this at a cost for their customers. Those are things they won't post on YouTube as it cuts into there potential clientele. Like Archerx7 said, it takes time and experimenting.

Some (most?) bow companies already do add some. I see them on Martins, PSE and other bows in one fashion or another.

archerx7
03-19-2011, 07:09 PM
I'm sure some Pro Shops do this at a cost for their customers. Those are things they won't advertise as it cuts into there potential clientele. Like Archerx7 said, it takes time and experimenting.

Some (most?) bow companies already do add some. I see them on Martins, PSE and other bows in one fashion or another.

Correct, Most shops that are equipped with a chrono will offer this service for thier customers, but it can be very time consuming and if the shop charges by the hour, this would probably be something most wouldn't consider as the gains vs cost wouldn't be worth it for the average archer unless they are really concerned with getting every last bit of performance from thier equipment.

Most manufacturers use computer programs to come up with the locations and weight of the speed nocks, which in some cases will leave a little bit more to gain by actually using a chrono.

Rockyhud
03-20-2011, 08:15 AM
I totally agree with Barry - shrink wrap is not needed. Quite some time back the Martin originally installed speed nocks on the upper end of my string were replaced by my dealer - don't recall why but they were. When the news one were installed the was no shrink wrap put on. They stayed on and in the exact same location for the next couple of years until I removed them to install my No-Glove speed nock replacements.


Your not adding enough shrink tube to amount to anything and it's out near the cams so it doesn't slow the bow down. The shrink tube really isn't necssary anyway. If you install the nock points well they aren't coming off. I think the main purpose of the shrink tube is aesthetics anyway.

archerx7
03-20-2011, 09:00 AM
Really not meaning to sound like a jerk......but shrink tube is pretty inexpensive and only takes a few minutes to install. I have seen a speed nock come off the string at the shot and it left a pretty nice welt right beside the guys eye, another couple inches and he would have most likley lost his sight in that eye. Shrink wrap is cheap insurance considering the speed your string is traveling during the shot. Really no different than flexing your carbon shafts before shooting them.

MLN1963
03-20-2011, 09:05 AM
Not to mention that it looks so much better with the shrink tube. It looks nice and professional, not cobbed together.