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MLN1963
03-30-2011, 11:11 AM
I tied my d loop on using the Wildman 3 pack loop material. I used a needle nose between it and the string to stretch it tight as I could get it. I noticed that the loop was closing some so I tried to tighten it and it stayed a little while and moved again.

Last night I had someone tie in a peep and he took my loop off and tied in another using a new piece of loop material. His loop slipped farther and faster than mine. His opinion was this Wildman stuff isn't stiff enough but I don't know if I buy that. There are plenty of guys using just the loop with no tied or brass nocking points without slippage, my friend included.

Ideas?

Hutch~n~Son Archery
03-30-2011, 11:53 AM
Try tying it like this!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Ij5aW8l6o I have never had one slip using this method.

Hutch:cool:

Hutch~n~Son Archery
03-30-2011, 12:05 PM
Waxing the d-loop ends wll help the knot tighten up.
Good point SL. When you do it all the time you forget the little things.

Hutch:cool:

MLN1963
03-30-2011, 01:51 PM
Wax the ends before you tie the d-loop material before or after tying the knot?

I got some different material and some serving. He didn't have any big stuff like in the video. He had BCY 3d Dyneema or Spectra 3-ply .016 (I guess it is a crap shoot but that is what the package says?) I bought the roll, $18, to try make some soft nocking points like I seen in a Kenny Parsons video. Do you think that .16 is too small? I need to widen the loop so I can try some FOBs.

I watched Kenny's video again and his preference is to wax before tying it. I guess I'll try that.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
03-30-2011, 01:57 PM
Wax the ends before you tie the d-loop material before or after tying the knot?

I got some different material and some serving. He didn't have any big stuff like in the video. He had BCY 3d Dyneema or Spectra 3-ply .016 (I guess it is a crap shoot but that is what the package says?) I bought the roll, $18, it try make some soft nocking points like I seen in a Kenny Parsons video. Do you think that .16 is too small?

I watched Kenny's video again and his preference is to wax before tying it. I guess I'll try that.
Wax the whole d loop material before tying. This makes the knot tighten much more, when using the needle nose pliers. If the tie nocks seem to small go right over the top of the first layer, with another layer it won't hurt a thing.

Hutch:cool:

MLN1963
03-30-2011, 02:39 PM
Thanks Hutch. Have any suggestions on how to tie the soft nock? Do a half wrap tie, half wrap tie?

Skbengal
03-30-2011, 02:52 PM
Yeah,before tying it and wax the serving where the loop goes on ,don't need alot, just a light coating.Make sure you burned ends are good size balls or the end will pull through
and you will get a good pop in the mouth(personal experience):eek:

I thought I was the only greenhorn who did that!

Hutch~n~Son Archery
03-30-2011, 03:15 PM
Thanks Hutch. Have any suggestions on how to tie the soft nock? Do a half wrap tie, half wrap tie?
Half hitch front Half hitch back continue till you build up the tie nock. Leave a little space between he arrow nock, don't make the tie nocks too snug so you won't get nock pinch.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ragiwarmbear/diy/ton/tie.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyS1BYZdY8


Hutch:cool:

HawgEnvy
03-30-2011, 03:47 PM
I thought I was the only greenhorn who did that!

I did it w an arrow nocked and stuck the arrow in the bedroom door. Oops! Got a fat lip out of it,too.

MLN1963
03-30-2011, 07:11 PM
Done. I added some soft nocks and waxed the d-loop before tying it this time.

If I end up doing it again I'll do one thing different, cinch up the bottom part of the loop first. Every time, 3, I tied the top part of the loop first and I'm convinced that it gets the tightest. But the most pull seems to be on the lower part of the loop since the loop is not centered on the string.

Thanks everyone.

Rockyhud
03-30-2011, 07:41 PM
You might also invest in a set of d-loop pliers. I bought some and was amazed how much more these pliers can pull on the loop than needle nose pliers, which also helps produce tighter knots.

Paradox
03-31-2011, 03:31 AM
You might also invest in a set of d-loop pliers. I bought some and was amazed how much more these pliers can pull on the loop than needle nose pliers, which also helps produce tighter knots.

I'll plus one on that..........best investment I ever made. Much easier to get a good loop and pulls it really tight.

Ehunter
03-31-2011, 04:34 PM
One tip, don't use cheap needle nose pliers either. I broke a pair tightening a D-loop once. Had to put on another new loop after that. Glad it broke on the loop side, and not the string side.

MLN1963
03-31-2011, 07:04 PM
One tip, don't use cheap needle nose pliers either. I broke a pair tightening a D-loop once. Had to put on another new loop after that. Glad it broke on the loop side, and not the string side.

I used a Craftsman, I don't think I have enough strength to break it. And if I did it would be replaced for free. The string would be on me.