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HawgEnvy
04-04-2011, 04:49 AM
just loooking at the web page. Why the difference in the IBO rating. Crossfire 30.5" AtA,nitro 2.0 cams,320-325fps. FC400 32.5" AtA,nitro 2.0 cams,335-345 IBO. I'm not currently in the market for a new bow, but for some reason the Crossfire appeals to me. Maybe it's because it seems to be ignored:(.

Arrow Splitter
04-04-2011, 04:54 AM
That's a good question. I wouldn't think that the ATA would be the difference, but I guess it could be.:confused:

A.S

HawgEnvy
04-04-2011, 06:27 AM
it just confuses me since the AtA seems to be the only diff in the specs. BH is the same also:confused:

HawgEnvy
04-04-2011, 12:35 PM
someone must be able to explain this

Ehunter
04-04-2011, 01:36 PM
My guess would be that with the shorter ATA, it's a slightly less efficient bow. Shorter power stroke, even though the brace is the same maybe. Probably a different riser/limb geometry that makes it less efficient.

Arrow Splitter
04-04-2011, 03:03 PM
My guess would be that with the shorter ATA, it's a slightly less efficient bow. Shorter power stroke, even though the brace is the same maybe. Probably a different riser/limb geometry that makes it less efficient.

That makes sense.

MLN1963
04-04-2011, 03:04 PM
My guess would be that with the shorter ATA, it's a slightly less efficient bow. Shorter power stroke, even though the brace is the same maybe. Probably a different riser/limb geometry that makes it less efficient.

The Onza 3 is longer A2A than my FC400 but it is slower IBO so I can't break the code.

HawgEnvy
04-04-2011, 04:43 PM
anyone have Joel's #? It really is bugging me that much and my OCD won't let it rest til I get to the bottom of the mystery. Where's Columbo n Monk when you need 'em?

cjchasman
04-04-2011, 05:05 PM
Riser configuration looks different to me. The FC appears flatter (perpendicular) at the limb pockets causing the limbs to be more parallel. And from what I've heard the parallel limb design is more energy efficient. Less shock more thrust???? Just guessin'.
One more thing...was there any speed assist on the FC like speed nocs?

HawgEnvy
04-04-2011, 06:11 PM
not sure about the speed assist. I was comparing the specs on the web page

MLN1963
04-04-2011, 06:36 PM
The Crossfire looks like an Exile with Nitro cams to me. I was actually looking at the Crossfire myself because of the compactness. I thought it would be nice in small packable ground blinds.

archerx7
04-04-2011, 06:46 PM
The Crossfire looks like an Exile with Nitro cams to me. I was actually looking at the Crossfire myself because of the compactness. I thought it would be nice in small packable ground blinds.

The Crossfire, Exile and Leopard all use the same riser. ;)

MLN1963
04-04-2011, 06:59 PM
Does that make the Crossfire 1.5 a Leopard with Nitro 1.5 cams? :rolleyes:

archerx7
04-05-2011, 03:20 AM
Does that make the Crossfire 1.5 a Leopard with Nitro 1.5 cams? :rolleyes:

Yeppers.......a Crosspard.......or maybe a Leofire ?????? :D

Arrow Splitter
04-05-2011, 05:47 AM
One more thing...was there any speed assist on the FC like speed nocs?

No. When a bow gets test for speed, there isn't any extras on it as far as I know.

A.S

bfisher
04-05-2011, 12:24 PM
alling Joel is easy enough. Call Martin Archery at 1-800-541-8902. When picked up you'll get instructions as to what number to push. I think it's #2 on your phone for Warranty and Tech service. This is where Joel works.