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Broken Arrow
05-15-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm wondering why there's no serving on the idler wheel portion of the factory strings on Bengals. I'm thinking of getting a new string made and need advice on whether I should ask them to do it...concerned about wear.

Ehunter
05-15-2011, 12:32 PM
If you haven't had any abnormal wear on the current string, I wouldn't have the new one served. The bow was designed to not have the string served there, so there may be a fit problem if it is. The string may be too wide for the idler if it is served. Also, having that area served will also drop your speed a little. Nothing significant, but it will a little. I have an "08 Moab that is still on the factory strings with no signs of string wear over the idler wheel. If you have had wear problems, a good string maker should be able to tell you if there will be clearance problems with the idler wheel.

Hutch~n~Son Archery
05-15-2011, 12:34 PM
There is no great benefit to having the idler served. But there is a benefit without it served, a few more fps. Also the grooves in the idlers are deeper and wider and the string rides better.




Hutch:cool:

bbjavelina
05-15-2011, 02:03 PM
Some bows (not aware that any are Martin) have transverse grooves on the idler. Since it easy to see that there is some amount of "slip" between the string and idler, there may be a risk of string damage if those models were not served.

Since I happen to have one like that, I can't help to but wonder why. It's obvious that even on this model there is movement between the string and the idler. Seems that the efficiency of the bow would be improved if the grooves were not there. Why accelerate the idler any more than needed? Of course, I've entertained the idiea of polishing the grooves out of existence, but, alas, I'm pretty lazy and have done nothing about it.

In any case, I'd have to go with replacing like with like.

Best of luck to you.

Destroyer
05-15-2011, 04:12 PM
I'm wondering why there's no serving on the idler wheel portion of the factory strings on Bengals..

Cost cutting?


There is no great benefit to having the idler served.

I'd say protecting the string from wear on a idler is pretty important. The groove finish as well as the angles that the string comes off at can chew through a string. But yes it does add some weight but I'd rather protect the strands and loose a couple of fps.

Speedykills
05-15-2011, 04:30 PM
Mine isnt served either and as i said in a previous post,i was told by joel there is no need to have it served or where the CCs is too.I cant remember what i was told but you can search for the thread,make sence.

gravedigger
05-15-2011, 05:18 PM
I'm wondering why there's no serving on the idler wheel portion of the factory strings on Bengals. I'm thinking of getting a new string made and need advice on whether I should ask them to do it...concerned about wear.

hmm thats a bit weird.my 2010 bengal and my buddys 2009 bengal are both served at the idler wheel.

bigredhunter00
05-15-2011, 08:46 PM
what year bengals are we talking about, cause i had the factory string replaced last year and my bow guy put serving on the idler wheel. I shot a 10 bengal btw

Hutch~n~Son Archery
05-16-2011, 01:00 AM
My 2010 Bengal is not served at the idler wheel.

HUTCH:cool:

HawgEnvy
05-16-2011, 02:32 AM
'08 Cheetah...served

Broken Arrow
05-16-2011, 06:48 AM
It's a 2007 Bengal...the current string is not the original and as I purchased the bow used, I have no idea whether the it came served from the factory.

Simple Life
05-16-2011, 08:49 AM
Saber and Bear are served

oncechance1
05-16-2011, 09:57 AM
My Firecat TR1 wasn't served over the idler or the CCS. I added serving a couple of days later and less worries about string wearing on those friction points.

MLN1963
05-16-2011, 10:34 AM
Since they both roll I don't see any real benefit to serving the ccs or idler wheel?

cjchasman
05-16-2011, 11:19 AM
2010 Bengal...No serving...no sign of wear @ idler. Factory string.

archerx7
05-16-2011, 11:25 AM
The idler and ccs should both be served. The only real benefit to not serving the idler is a slight gain in speed which is not offset by the bad things that can possibly happen. Any string will contain a certain amount of wax, string wax by nature is somewhat tacky and will collect dirt and dust which if not wiped off regularly will eventually be forced down into the string fibers where it will abraid and weaken the fibers untill they fail, seen it happen, not pretty. The other thing that can happen is the string can ride up the side of the idler much easier if left unserved and if you happen to torque the bow a little on the draw or letdown it will derail off the idler, seen this happen also on one that wasn't served.

As for the ccs, it is equipped with bearings and if one of the bearings sticks or fails, the roller will abraid the bare string material much more quickly than it will a good serving material. Again, I've seen this happen and the results weren't pretty.

Serving is designed to be more abrasion resistant than the string fibers it protects. It is designed to protect the fibers from the moving metal parts of the bow such as the cams and rollers. If you were to get a small ding or burr on a cam/idler or roller the serving will protect the fibers from getting cut, at least untill you hopefully notice the damage before its too late.

nnelzon23
05-19-2011, 08:15 PM
My Pantera was not served. Ordered customs without any mention and they came back served. No problems and better speeds. Of course that is also customs compared to helix strings.

Destroyer
05-20-2011, 03:40 PM
My Pantera was not served.

My 2010 Pantera wasn't either.