It's been a while back, but when I first tried the banana style grip of both the Onza and Nemesis I wasn't fond of them and I'm still not. So it seems Elite has something on the same order, a banana curve riser grip. I was just PMing with person who just now switched from the Elite with banana grip to a Athens with the standard slant grip and found accuracy he never had before. And he contributes all to the grip style, not the bows themselves.
Personally, I never had accuracy issues with the banana type grip, just wasn't fond of it. I believe the above person needs some instructions of how to place his hand to the riser grip and let it slip to where it won't slip any more. And this is something I never thought of when I shot the Onza III and Nemesis bows, letting my hand slip to the proper hold. I either did it instinctively or my hand was set to start with.
Pic of target below was shot with a Onza III. Basically, if my bow and shooting indoor target I would have turned the draw weight down and felt well armed to compete indoors...Well, at the local club or perhaps the state level.
Still, the banana grip doesn't allow the "slip" of the standard sloped grip. Problem; There isn't a lot of target shooters in here and those that are shoot the Shadowcat that has the standard sloped grip.
So, how many have issues with the banana grip? Or better yet, do you have accuracy one day and another day accuracy seems inconsistent?
I'm more consistant w a shallow,narrow grip like my HCA and the Athens Acc 34 I had. Next in line is the Martin saddle back grip. Much prefered over the older style Thermal grip. Not sure on the Elite grip. It felt similar to Martin's but filled my hand more. I would have to spend some time with an Elite before buying one.
Well, I have a 2011 and 2012 Nemisis and actually like the feel of the SADDLEBACK grip, but I do see where some people might not like it. I also have a 2010 Alien Z with the standard grip and I shoot it well. I would probably like it even more if the edges of the grip were more rounded. That might lead me to do some "hand" machining in the future and then a custom dip or powder coating.
I have to say, when I first shot the saddleback grip I was very impressed. My Firecat 400 has that grip, and I believe I'm more accurate with it than with a big, fat grip.
I also haven't noticed any inconsistency in my shooting.
When I first got my Onza and started shooting it, I was having consistency problems. But once I figured out how to properly hold the bow (I was still pretty new to archery and had only shot my Saber at that point) so that it was "torqueless" it was phenominal. Then again, I am now way more accurate with the saber too because of the experience.
I have shot several bow models now, basically anything I can get my hands on, and I gotta say I'm a huge fan of the saddleback grip. But, like you said Sonny, you have got to hold it so that between its own weight and the pull of the draw, it has no where to go... then its lights out! ;)
I was used to the old fat grips when I got my first saddleback gripped bow. Took me a while to get used to it, but I do like the thinner grip now. I do wish it was a straight grip, rather than banana shaped though. I use a slightly different grip than most people, further out on the thumb, and a straighter grip seems to settle in a little nicer for me. I will say, the thin grips have improved my accuracy though.
i really cant stand the saddleback. on my exile it peeled off the first week i had the bow, and took a chunk of the finish off with it, i put one of those limbsavers on it, but it wouldnt stay on either so i just reglued the saddleback back on it. it was comfortable, but when you look at pretty much any other bow, they all have a decent grips, most actually having awesome looking grips withthe exception of maybe pse....the grip on my alien seemed to be glued on way better than it was on the exile, and the little etched wood pieces were pretty sweet looking to, hopefully it holds up better.
dz, let's clear one thing up for you. What's being discussed here is not the self sticking (?) leather pad on the back of the grip, but the shape of the grip itself. There have been a lot of people who had problems with the leather piece sticking. I don't have an answer for it either because none of my three Aliens have it on them. I shoot right off the riser.
My previous bows all had the thermal elite grip which was the leather on front and back of the grip and wooden side plates. The leather wrapped around far enough on the sides that the side plates sat over the edge and helped hold the leather in place.
I know that most hunters would want some sort of cushion between their hand and the bow, especially in cold weather. I think, were it me, I would just wear an unlined leather glove when the weather calls for it.
i was simply commenting on the saddleback because the person in front of me on this thread mentioned it.........
OK, I thought you had it mixed up. No problemo.
Originally Posted by dzsmith