Also at what distance can you see this improvement, 20 yards, 50 yards, 100 yards?
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Also at what distance can you see this improvement, 20 yards, 50 yards, 100 yards?
Doesn't make people feel superior that I'm aware of. Do you think it makes a person feel unhappy to have lower quality gear? I know that is the point of advertising sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MLN1963
I can see a difference shooting in my back yard range of 18 yards going from Ultralight Pro's to Velocity Hunters. We aren't just talking straightness but spine and weight as well. Better consistency for me for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by MLN1963
To be fair wouldn't it need to be the GT velocity hunters against the GT Velocity pros?
Same specs I think.
How a bow is setup is going to make a lot of difference. The bare bow is only a base from which the shooting implement is created. The bare shaft is also only a base from which an arrow is created. The meticulous creation of the arrow from its various components will determine how true of a projectile is produced. Knowing the work ethnic prevalent in the world today, I don't trust an arrow that was completed by someone else. What good is a straightness tolerance if you don't square your cut ends or your inserts, or check if you have consistent spine and weight tolerances?
Value and quality are not a direct function of price unless the price is indeed justified by Craftsmanship and Integrity. Bows and Arrows, Houses or Cars. An old adage comes to mind here, "If you want something done right, do it yourself."
A good arrow takes time, a better one takes more. Straightness tolerances are a beginning point. If I was a tournament archer I would want the best I could afford. I would want to insure every step of the process. Even my targets would have to be of a material that would do the least harm to my arrow upon impact and extraction. I am not going to shoot an excellent arrow into crap.
Easton A/C/C's are only .0025 and the FatBoys are only .005 but they are both chosen by many top competitors. For many reasons I will stick with the Eastons...I own some Carbon Express and some Satellite Archery arrows along with my Eastons. The Satellites in the various series [Platinum, Gold, Silver and Bronze] were some great target arrows at low cost. My Eastons are .001 my Carbon Express are .003 and my Satellites are .006 tolerances. I think the perfect spine and grns per inch along with FOC are more important than the straightness tolerance with today's production arrows. JMHO
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Construction techniques and tolerances could differ between brands. I think the only true and fair test would be to have arrows within the same brand built by the same person using the same methods. In other words all else equal only one set of arrows are .006" and one set .001" tolerance. Then shoot them from a machine to take out as much human error human as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer
"Doesn't make people feel superior that I'm aware of. Do you think it makes a person feel unhappy to have lower quality gear? I know that is the point of advertising sometimes."
Sorry, I didn't mean it come out as making the owner feel superior. I meant it as it makes the owner feel he has a superior product.
I don't have any of the answers so these are just my thoughts. I've never seen any empirical data on this subject but as you know I am a green horn don't have a lot of archery knowledge.
I cant shoot well enough to tell the difference. So if it kills my deer at 30yds and under I'm happy. If I was a serious target shooter I'm sure it would matter, but that would probably be more in I have confidence in the arrow so I shoot that arrow better. I'm new with bows but I see the same thing with rifles. You shoot a rifle your confident with and you do well, if that rifle is $200 or $2000. Its about confidence and practice. I think .006 is the width of a human hair or something like that, so for where I'm at in archery it makes no difference whatsoever. Other guys may think different, and to each his own.
This right here.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford
Yes, I'm sure that a .001 arrow shot from a shooting machine will shoot a LITTLE better than a .006 arrow shot from the same bow and machine, because, after all, it is straighter.
And the faster your arrow goes the more important it is that its straighter. any flaws or imperfections will multiply as velocity increases.
Has anyone ever seen a real study on this subject, real test data and all that? You would think if such material existed the arrow manufactures would be all over that like Barry on a spammer.