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    Ehunter, The weird part is I can still move my draw stop to give me even more draw length with a 26" mod.
    whats up with that.



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    Shouldn't the draw stop be roughly where the cable rests on the module flatly for each length?
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    Hutch, I hear ya. That 32 inch measurement was with the draw stop in the center, not maxed out. Beginning to wonder if we need to wrap the cables up tighter, but on my Onza, I have the cables wrapped up so dang tight I'm scared to go any further. And I'm still at 33 5/8ths ATA, not the listed 33 1/4........I do have to say, it is shooting well though. lol
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    Doesn't matter to me about the draw length. I have it set for me. I shoot it well, and it hits the mark. But it is weird how they measure draw length. I am a small guy and according to their measurements I shoot a 28 3/4" Draw length. Weird!!!!!!!



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    Hutch, idk if AtA has anything to do w which mod produces which DL, but my DL is 28.5" on my 30" AtA Cheetah using the F5 mod. W my drop away rest, my arrows are cut to 26.75" and at full draw, my BH n FP sit flush w the shelf. I could easily lose another 1" of arrow length if I wanted to.

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    There seems to be a common thread here across a number of bows with different cams, as the Shadowcat with 1.5 cams is 1/2" longer in DL than the specs.

    Could it be that all the published specs are taken from the R&D departments prototypes and pre-production models and then not updated once the guys on the shop floor start making the 'real thing'?

    For my part, I really don't lose sleep over this stuff. I just set the bow up until the DL feels right, set the draw stop so that it just drops into the valley, make sure my arrows are well on the rest and take it from there. Martin, on the other hand, need to align their specs with the production bows, as it implies a lack of attention to detail.
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    It seems to be happening with a few of the other brands too, I just hope were not seeing the longer draw lengths just to boost IBO speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMac View Post
    There seems to be a common thread here across a number of bows with different cams, as the Shadowcat with 1.5 cams is 1/2" longer in DL than the specs.

    Could it be that all the published specs are taken from the R&D departments prototypes and pre-production models and then not updated once the guys on the shop floor start making the 'real thing'?

    For my part, I really don't lose sleep over this stuff. I just set the bow up until the DL feels right, set the draw stop so that it just drops into the valley, make sure my arrows are well on the rest and take it from there. Martin, on the other hand, need to align their specs with the production bows, as it implies a lack of attention to detail.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
    It seems to be happening with a few of the other brands too, I just hope were not seeing the longer draw lengths just to boost IBO speeds.
    I believe you are on to some thing. Now I will have to buy an arm stretcher to keep up! LOL!




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    I think you've hit the nail square on the head. There is nothing wrong with the bows, it's the technical information published and on the web that is all screwed up.

    I bought my first Shadowcat knowing full well that despite the longest DL being listed as 30", it would actually go to 30.5" at 65% let off, but I could have been put of buying by two published figures that were wrong; The maximum DL and the ATA, both of which were wrong and shorter than I require.

    The reverse is also true, as per previous posts.

    So, where within Martin does the problem lie? Are they spending $$$ on literature only to find production bows are different? I work in sales, I know just how much literature costs to print / distribute. If it's a publishing error, there are ways around it. Stickers on flyers are not pretty, but at least you'd know the information was good.

    Or is the problem that the technical and production staff are just not communicating with marketing, after all, if you don't know something is wrong, you can't do anything about it.
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