How do we know what he was shooting through the chrono?
We don't and we all don't get hand picked bows from Martin either. I like how he said the finish was much better on this bow, why the difference in finish?
I had asked him on the other forum what was different ... I believe his answer was, the draw length and weight and the fact the original bow he tested was set for him, not 30" as the second one was. Basically, this bow was set up for the speed test only and that's it. I'm still wondering what was wrong with the finish on the first bow and why even the second bow has some flaws but was "better". Hmmmmmmmm .... I think it's a nice bow regardless.
The first review was better, the second one was more of an apology. I would like to see more speed tests on the onza, its the only one I'm interested in.
But with all that is said about any bow company, they are all trying hard to grow their market shares. So whatever they have to do they will. Look at the guys on AT that will buy anything that says its faster, lighter, smoother draw, etc etc. I still think they all have the bug and will pay whatever it costs. I on the other hand would rather But a Martin and deal with it and shoot! shoot! shoot! Then to worry about how I am going to pay for the $1100. M or B bow.
Hmmmm... Quality accessories and a excellent bow at a cheap price...I like that.
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2007 Martin Jaguar /Trophy Taker Dropaway/Extreme Sight/Custom 21" Stabilizer/Victory V6 Arrows
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Problem is that Martin is fighting the continual price rise. Only a few years ago, $750 was the high end, now look at it.
wow you mean for only $1500 i can own a cool bow. you know thats what all the manufactures are thinking when they saw thecarbonmatrix. holy sh@$$%%, i saw a quiver for $269 the other day in a hunting mag. thats more than most monthly utility bills(maybe not in january), that could be a car payment for some of us penny pinchers
2011 Firecat 400, sword twilight hunter, apa twister, lots of arrows
I think that maybe part of it (in relation to hype) is that the engineers can design a cam to perform a certain way at a certain rotation (draw length). So they design a cam that has it "sweet spot" at 30" dl to maximize the hype of IBO.
The problem with that is that if you have a draw (like me) that is shorter than 30" you can't take advantage of the cam design. (Not to mention just the physics of force and momentum we lack from the string's shorter path of influence.)
So then you get someone like me or Ike that does a review and says "well, its slower than I had expected from the IBO..." we were dealt the short end of the stick to begin with ( notice the pun?) because the cams don't reach full potential in our stubby little arms!
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2011 Onza 3: 70#, 28.25 draw (AMO), 384 gr arrow, 288 fps
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