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    Thanks for the info guys, I,m going to see if it is me first. I will set up the shooting machine (take out the human factor) And see where it hits then. Then I will go from there. Using some of your guys suggestions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyThomas View Post
    Hutch, just as long as you remember your shooting machine will never be you.
    That's right. I just want to know if it was me. Then I can take care of me! If the bow doesn't hit well at 50 and 70 yards then Its the arrows. If it hits great its me!



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    Well Sonny, I am a discipline shooter. I anchor the same, I have no kisser button. I hit well. But I couldn't understand why at 50 and 70yards I couldn't hit well. So I thought must be me! So I went back to 80 yards bulleye no problems. 60yards no problem 40yards no problem. So the inconsistency bugged me.



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    I'm staying out of this one. I agree with Sonny up to a point. Finding a happy medium with the peep position is what we had to do when bows were slower and sight pins or sight settings were farther apart. Today it is still a good idea if you are shooting a with an extended target sight. And Hutch, to do this aren't going to be changing your anchor any appreciable amount; at least not enough for you to notice. It would be less than the diameter of the peep you are using.

    On the other hand I would like to see you play with your idea of the shooting machine and see what you find. You might find that part of the problem is too little FOC or maybe too much fletching drag, both which can cause groups to open up at longer distances. So play around and let us know what you find.
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    The next available time I get I will have to try it in the shooting machine. But you mentioned something I haven't checked on my new arrows foc.Forgot all about it. I will have to check them tomorrow.

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    Well guys I got the some time and I set up the Super shooter @ 65.yards. I put my bow in it and shot my arrows. The findings FOC poor and the arrow were too stiff. So I took out my new arrows, not so stiff and FOC is right. Here is the results. OH btw MLN said in a old post that he wouldn't believe it unless he saw it. Here is The Super Shooter with my 2010 Bengal at 65 yards
    http://s745.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=100_0994.mp4
    http://s745.photobucket.com/albums/x...100_0995-1.mp4

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    Well Sonny, I went out and shot from 20,30,40,50,60,70,80 yards. @20 dead on, @30 5" groups no bulls eyes. @40 dead on, @50 5 to 6" groups. @60 dead on, @70 6 to 7" circles, @80 dead on. It seemed to me that it was just me. But it was a pattern and I questioned it. So the guys gave me some ideas. Seams the spine in my old arrows is way to stiff because of how short they were. And FOC was way to little. So to make sure I took out the Super shooter and did some tests. And they were correct in some of the suggestions. Because as soon as I used my new arrows in the Super shooter. The video shows my new arrow hit the bulls eye. Then I used the same arrow again and shot it and it hit the same hole in the same place on the target. It just goes to show I need to pay more attention to the details in buying arrows. The Bengal is set for 65lbs dw @ 27" dl with old arrows being 415grns. @ 27.5" long 380/400 spine.

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    Goldtip expeditions, 55/70 8.2 GPI 400 spine @ 28.5" length.




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