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    Default Martin Cougar II Archery Wheels (Aluminium , LARGE)allow shooting without cable guard

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    Hi Everyones

    I write to you (Martin Technician and Archery Cognoscenti People) because I REALLY need help

    I want to rebuilt the old Martin Cougar II MT-6 Bow that my father had when I was young

    He Truly liked this model and was one of his prefered bow

    My father Died last year and I want to rebuilt this very old bow

    I have found all the parts I need from several archery shop around the United States

    the part that I have searched a LOTS in order to found them is the wheels !!!

    I remember that my father prefered to shoot WITHOUT using a cables Guard

    I have made a LOTS of research in order to found that ONLY a SPECIFIC type of Martin Wheels
    can allow this!

    I have FINALLY found a set of theses Aluminium Wheels

    but now , the complex part :

    theses wheels have TWO type of holes (too attach them on the wood limbs with steel rod\steel circlip)

    ONE LONGUER
    ONE SHORTER

    **Please Refer to the Digital Photo included in this Thread**

    The Longuer difference is extremely slight , But I presume it affect something on the cables setting\Draw Lenght\Weight

    Im a 6'3" guy with very long arms

    Please , could someone can explain to me the difference (in use) between the two holes (long & short)
    and what will be the BEST SUITED Hole to choose for me

    I hope that someone will be able to answer me on this question

    You can reply here or directly via PM

    Waiting for your Help Guys!!

    Thanks

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    To make things easy I'll just refer to the colors you have on them. The axle holes are two different distances from the outside edge. This is for two different letoffs. The closer the hole is to the outside edge the higher the letoff will be. For instance, the hole on the blue side might be 50% letoff whereas the green will be 65%.

    The percentages I'm using might not be the actual settings, but should give you an idea of which you might want to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfisher View Post
    To make things easy I'll just refer to the colors you have on them. The axle holes are two different distances from the outside edge. This is for two different letoffs. The closer the hole is to the outside edge the higher the letoff will be. For instance, the hole on the blue side might be 50% letoff whereas the green will be 65%.

    The percentages I'm using might not be the actual settings, but should give you an idea of which you might want to use.
    Many thanks for your answer Sir! Really appreciated

    but I ask to myself , since I want to shoot with fingers (no mechanical release) what option will be BETTER
    for the Accuracy ?

    Did its better to have 50% letoff or 65% (approx numbers , yes I understand) in order to have a Martin
    Cougar II Mt-6 Old bow shoot straight , smooth & accurate

    I know many other things come together in order to reach this "perfect setting"

    but if I have to choose , depending of all your years of experience , what will you suggest me ?

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    I prefer 65% let off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSnake View Post
    Many thanks for your answer Sir! Really appreciated

    but I ask to myself , since I want to shoot with fingers (no mechanical release) what option will be BETTER
    for the Accuracy ?

    Did its better to have 50% letoff or 65% (approx numbers , yes I understand) in order to have a Martin
    Cougar II Mt-6 Old bow shoot straight , smooth & accurate

    I know many other things come together in order to reach this "perfect setting"

    but if I have to choose , depending of all your years of experience , what will you suggest me ?
    Personally I would choose the 65% setting depending on how much peak weight the bow is set for. If it's only 50 to 55# then I would choose the 50% setting. It's just easier to get a clean release with fingers if you maintain a higher holding weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
    Same here.



    That is the way I use to think too but if the peak draw weight is high (70#) it can be a real struggle. In the old days I prefered 30 - 50 % finger release but after trying 65% on my early 90's hoyt's I wouldn't go back. It was all about the actual holding weight not percentage.

    Imo its more about string angle than holding weight anyway.
    Especially with fingers!
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    Default Bonjour SolidSnake

    Les Roues ont-elles des cannelures usinées pour placer vos câbles dans ?

    Regardez s'il vous plaît les photographies, en incluant mon Magnum de Martin Cougar, faites n'importe lequel d'entre ceux-ci Martin Cougars ressemble à vôtre ? Votre Martin a-t-il un joug?
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