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    Dave

    The thing I noticed most when looking for a bow last year is that the hump I had always heard about was on the milder cams more more so than the speed cams. Right or wrong this is how I perceive it. As you draw the bow the cams rotate and get harder to draw. The mild bows pull easy in the beginning and then ramp up towards the end. This is the hump as I understand it. The speed cams ramp up very quickly and then stay steady throughout the rest of the draw. The following is just an example, I have never put them both on a draw board with scale attached to plot draw force curves. With both bows set to 60 pound I may draw my son's Pantera back 8 inches before I get to the full 60 pound draw where my Firecat 400 may be at 60 pounds at only 4 inches. Since the speed cams are kept under higher tension longer they sling the arrow faster. Clear as mud?

    That being said I was totally shocked when I compared my FC400 to my brother's BT Invasion. His cams look much more aggressive than mine but his was much easier, or at least seemed much easier to draw. So I do have to agree that you can't judge a book by it's cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pizzadave View Post
    I think the idlers looks like it matches well actually. Look at how much space is between the string/cables at rest in the cam, and idler. They have nearly the same spacing, so either its an optical illusion or some new Martin innovation (we all know they are good for it) I got raked over the coals on AT for mentioning that the cam looks quite aggressive, and I said hopefully that equals more speed. I got told I can't tell that from looking st the cam track. I really wanna call b.s. on that since comparing bows of the past with small cams to bows of today with large cams, I gotta think the aggressive shape has something to so with speed. I realize the limbs have to do with it as well, but then Egypt is that once.ou replace the round idlers with a second cam, you have more sees than a single with the same limbs? Just thought I'd share that. I feel the cam looks badass..... and I want one. Haha. Also... now seems to be under 30" ata doesn't it?
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    Unfortunately they are right dave. The cable track is far mroe important than the string track. Bows from 2000 produced awesome speeds with a not so fancy string track.
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    m I think I'm thinking the same thing as Simon (Monty). It can be decieving about how aggressive a cam appears based just on it's shape. It's overall size and the shape of the module are part of that force-draw curve as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake-the-snake View Post
    Martin's version of the extremely popular Z7 Extreme? ...
    do that,w cat cams,and keep it in the price range of the Cheetah and i'd own one
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    Thanks guys for the info! I love learning new stuff about bows, and these forums are a great source for info.
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    definitely looking looking good! I saw on the AT link that someone was bashing the TRG/SOS and then it was said that "at least Martin tries new things"... I am excited to see what they've put together for this year!
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    Default Found it!

    Ok got it!
    If ya go to to the main Martin web page, then go to media, images then click the high res images it'll give ya a 2012 option keep clicking it til ya get to a long list of pics then ya can just go thru em one by one

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    Yeah I was the guy responding to the person bashing the TRG

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    Quote Originally Posted by StokedPowerWagon View Post
    Ok got it!
    If ya go to to the main Martin web page, then go to media, images then click the high res images it'll give ya a 2012 option keep clicking it til ya get to a long list of pics then ya can just go thru em one by one
    hear is the link...
    http://www.martinarchery.com/highres...inAccessories/

    but ther are no bow pics.but a pic of a take dawn and a tiger

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